Are These the Same Coin?
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Well, it's always a loaded question, but here goes - are these are the same coin?
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Sure looks like it.
Absolutely.
There are those who have examined these images and agree that they are one of the same...and you can count me among them.
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Agree with the others, yes.
Sure looks like a match although the toning might have deepened since the matrix dot plate.
Yep.
Really looks like it
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I would bet on it. Lots of reference points.
Undoubtedly!
The first is the Simpson coin, PCGS MS-62. It was once run over by a Brinks truck, but saved by the holder.
The second is ex. Superior 1/1979, lot 666, there graded AU50.
From what I see... yes.
from what I can see yes.
Sounds like the grade revisions over time for these coins are similar to those of the 1804 dollars.
Same.
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yup
Yes. And I want it.
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They appear to be the same coin... though the lower image leaves much to be desired. There are PUP's though... Cheers, RickO
I'll play Devil's Advocate... I think the image quality of the second coin makes it next to impossible to say, with 100% certainty, that they're the same coin. There are some diagnostics evident (the streaks on the obverse), but nothing I'd hang my hat on.
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Yes.
Just the centering of the denticals is damn near unique. 100% the same coin
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Yup. Whoever owns it can send it to me if they don't like it.
I would say 100% yes
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Yes, I believe so, judging from the toning pattern.
So is it a victim of gradedeflation? :-)
Same, beautiful coin
Absatively!
BTW, the Superior catalog is, of course, on the NNP, and also has a color plate, making the matching even more obvious.
Ed. S.
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I am going to go against the over-all consensus and state, yes, they're the same coin.
Yes.
Lance.
The overall consensus is clearly in the same coin camp, so you’re not going against it.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Here is a comparison using the color plate from the NNP and the PCGS TrueView with obverse rotated to match.
https://archive.org/details/madisonestatesal1979supe/page/n17
Agree it's the same coin. There are lots of matching diagnostics. Here's the TrueView.
PCGS lists the Simpson provenance but it's not in any registry set at the moment.
I unhesitatingly declare it so.
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I am also going to valiantly oppose M. Feld's accusation and state I agree.
Absolutely
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Well, I work in a different venue... clinical laboratory. I think my "matching abilities" are fine, but that's only when people's lives are at stake...
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Same coin.