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Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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Oh no, terrible news for him and anyone. Mr. Bressett has a great eye for coins so I'm sure his loss is huge. I wonder if he was at a coin show.
If the items stolen were coin related then...
If the items stolen were just anything of perceived value then...
Was the place ransacked? If not, someone knew too much about the layout of the residence.
Hope everyone is/was safe.
Oh my. Poor Mr. Bressett!!! Hope he is safe. One of the great men of present-day numismatics!
What a damn shame. His awards are irreplaceable.
Damn...even the longtime Redbook editor is not immune.
Let me introduce a little "humor" into this awful occurrence.
Don't be so hard on thieves! There may be extenuating circumstances. Since most "bleeding heart" wonderful people fail to realize that dead criminals cannot commit any more crimes on society ever again, first-time offenders should only lose the use of their writing side arm up to the elbow. The Only exceptions would be in particular cases. For example, a coin thief would lose both hands. A car thief would lose both feet. I assure all of you that with a two-week national warning of the new policy using all forms of communication, crime would SPIKE and then be reduced to very little after several Pay-for-View executions of the sentences. Additionally, the fees charged for viewing would reduce our National Debt.
This is horrible. I hope these items can be recovered quickly and the thieves apprehended! It would be helpful if they were all well documented.
I also wonder if those were just what he happens to have at home and if other things were in a SDB?
In general, I wonder if thievery could be on the rise as we even have a Congressperson publicly supporting not paying subway fares.
If I had owned 20 nice Chinese silver sycee and lost them, that would be a terrible terrible shock. Mr. Bressett is the kind of person who no doubt had nice ones.
I don't think that free fare, free college, free healthcare to anyone, free money, free anything from the land of the not so free anymore is a major cause of crime.
Thing thing is that the fares aren't free right now. It would be better to change the program so the fares are free, but that's not what's happening. I’ll just leave it at that.
Just be careful for your coins.
How the $#@% does a thread about a numismatist being victimized turn into an assinine political thread?
It's a coin forum
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At this point I’d say it’s a crime thread. I worry about general crime and my coins at home as thieves have been in our neighborhood and to our door. I have coins that I don’t post as this is a big concern of mine. This also affects whether I get a pedigree for my coins. I think about this a lot and want to get one but I may wait till I’m ready to sell since I’d like to use my name for my pedigree. Another option is an anonymous one but that still provides aggregate info. If crime isn’t a legitimate topic here, then so be it.
One of the crimes is that CROOKS got the auto dollar and I want one.
@topstuf A genuine Kweichow Auto Dollar is a wonderful thing.
So many damn fakes!
Sad on so many levels. Knowing Ken's reputation I'm sure the Colorado coin dealers will be on high alert.
Reminds me of a George Carlin skit.
They stole Awards with the victims name inscribed?
What a genius.
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This is horrible. I am honored to say I am a friend of Ken's and I saw him this last Friday. He is a very private person and is always careful. One of the great ambassadors of the hobby. I hope that he is okay
Old blue hairs that's how. lol
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Apparently, you are the one with "politics" on the mind. This has to do with crime, how we have changed our way of treating criminals, and the fact that free things form our government does not affect the crime rate.
This is not about politics. Politics involves the belief/opinions of the left and right. Unfortunately, crime involves all of us no matter what we believe. No mention was made about either political belief in this discussion.
Stealing awards may be a vendetta of some kind. Otherwise, a way to throw suspicion that way.
First , before I post I must apologize to the snowflakes. I must also apologize for my stereotypical experiences, my apparent distaste of older folks, what I say about some women, and continuing to lead this discussion away from its purpose. I'll also remind a few readers that this post has nothing to do with your political leanings.
From what I have observed in the past, I'll report that some older women have blue hair and all old men have white hair unless they have it colored.
Wow - sorry to hear of it. Ken is a class act.
I respectfully disagree. Since this is a crime thread, I just read an article about the impact of California Prop 47. They made shoplifting of items of less than $975 such a minor offense, that in San Francisco shoplifting is now so brazen, the thieves just walk into stores, and openly shop lift rampantly, knowing the stores no longer call the police, since the police no longer do anything, as they now devote their time to “more important” crime. I’m not making a political statement, but just pointing out facts and results of certain policies.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-prop-47-shoplifting-theft-crime-statewide
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Geeze! Man I could ramble on about that! What say you @ErrorsOnCoins Any defense for your wonderful state?
This is certainly both a personal tragedy and a societal issue. I hope Mr. Bressett recovers his possessions. Cheers, RickO
Sad news. I hope Ken recovers what was stolen. Lots of irreplaceable stuff. Maybe the thief is stupid enough to try selling everything to Hallenbeck's.
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Please don't quote news sources that are pushing the idea that crime is going up and getting worse in the U.S. while it is actually going down, violent crimes as well as property crimes. We are lucky in that respect and should feel more secure, not fearful. Fox News is not reliable or accurate on this subject and seems to be stoking fear. Fear sells better than security.
https://www.google.com/search?lei=fzLAXdD1ItKP5wLKl5ygCA&q=crime rates by year graph&ved=2ahUKEwjcuZCV39DlAhWtzlkKHd3FA4kQsKwBKAR6BAgBEAU&biw=1366&bih=625
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/10/17/facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/
Crime rates are falling in California, both violent and property crime. Colorado, where this burglary took place, is a more mixed picture. Violent crime is rising, especially in Colorado Springs while property crime is falling.
https://www.ppic.org/publication/crime-trends-in-california/
https://www.valuepenguin.com/how-crime-has-changed-colorado-cities-past-five-years
The fact that Mr. Bressett had a large quantity of gold jewelry stolen suggests that this may have been the target or at least what attracted the thief's attention.
While overall crime in California may indeed be going down, you have not been able to dispute the facts that I have referred to, which were tied to a prior comment about "free" things and crime. In the case I quoted, "free" things are being obtained by shoplifters in an illegal manner. Regardless, let's not get off point regarding the unfortunate event that happened to Mr. Bressett. A good week to all.
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
I clicked on Fox Pravda link and it shows a photo of a black homeless man surrounded by trash. Got to love Miss Information. Ya that photos sums up California in the minds of some. Just perfect.
I guess you just looked at the photo, and chose to ignore the text.
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
I looked at the photo at spit out my coffee laughing at you. OMG.
KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE POLITICAL KRAP!
I think this thread is going bye bye soon.
I live in California and petty crime like shoplifting is on the rise in the big cities prompted by changing laws. Shoplifting is now a misdemeanor if the value of the stolen goods are less than $975.
I forgot about that and didn't realize it was more than just a typical "left coast" proposal. I stand corrected.
When a government chooses to ignore criminality of any kind for whatever the reason, it will encourage it. However, in this case the loss was NOT minor. The only good part of this story is that he was not at home and is safe.
Wow, one of the worse case of thread hijacking I've seen in a while.
Hopefully there will be some leads to catch the scum and I'm glad that Mr. Bressett was not there to be harmed.
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It's going to be a rough and tough 12 months on every online forum.
We might see a lot of timeouts, and more than a few bannings of those who lack civility and self control.
Too bad about the burglary
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My wife, for completely altruistic reasons, got herself elected to the local school board. I learned an enormous amount about politics at that point. No matter what decision you made, even for the most trivial of things, half of the people didn't agree with it. Half of those were vocal about it and made noise in the local paper. Sometimes, those who were the most vocal in their opposition were ignorant of the facts, and almost nobody attended the board meetings. This was on a local level in a very small school district. Thank goodness she's no longer involved.
Multiply that on a national scale, remove all objectivity and transparency, inject a bunch of spin & bias and the result is predictable. What can we do? We can refuse to be uncivil, even when we disagree. Besides having a single vote (that almost never matters), that's it...... but in actuality it's the most important part.
As for the OP's thread, well, it was savagely hijacked and I bet he regrets even posting about it.
I don't know Mr. Bressett, but I hope he gets his material back. Being the victim is worse than most people imagine.
Wow. This thread started off with good intentions to publicize a numismatic crime and somehow devolved into a morass of poo emojis. Boorish, garbage threads like this (not the OP's fault whatsoever) might be the reason people wonder "where is the forum participation" or "where are the young 'uns?'
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Very well said. It applies to numismatics also. Ignorance of anything (through no fault of their own) makes any discussion with such a fellow like trying to convince a CRH that his PMD coin is not a rare variety.
In the case of this robbery report, we are lucky that the "facts" therein have not changed in the rush to report them. Perhaps a member who has spoken to Ken in the last few days can encourage him to list the most important stolen items here. Otherwise, it may be best for the rest of us not to bother him at this time.
Unfortunately, too many people here don't give a damn about the victim.
I think people do care. This has just got a little off track.
Hope they catch the bastards.
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Do you mean the errant posters?!
You deserve a BIG DISAGREE!
I believe everyone posting in this thread cares. Unfortunately, after "I'm sorry for your loss" there is nothing else to add. Perhaps the shift away from "Sorry" to a discussion of how to keep our coins safe, the reason for this sort of crime, or a list of coins to watch for would make a good addition to your OP.
Can you ask Ken to post some specifics of the stolen coins. I'll bet that Auto dollar will be headed over the pond so it can be placed in a collection away from eyes that will recognize it. This is a good argument for True Views and slabbing expensive coins.
In the early days, ANACS took images of every coin sent in along with weights. Today, several TPGS offer a photo option. Perhaps, folks could ask the TPGS's to offer a Photo ID only service with out paying for a slab.
I'm in Nevada, next to California, and I think I'll head across the border for some free groceries.....
Sorry to hear about Ken's plight. Are there pics of the perps? Camera system?
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Just get the free stuff in your state or any state as most states it is a misdemeanor... just different thresholds.
But of course, California bashing seems to be a sport by some. Jealously I guess.
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I was stationed in beautiful CA for two years in the 1960's. Now I hear you need to watch out for the poop and needles.
PS I'd like to see PCGS move out of the state before the "Big One" next year.
Well I thought I had missed out by not opening this thread sooner but maybe that was a better idea.
In any case, regardless of who gets what for free and which state has them most dirty sidewalks, ,the loss as described is terrible and as someone mentioned, seems personal. I'll have to admit, though, that NCIC bulletin in the first post is a bit vague on the details. If all of that stuff walked through my door at once it might set off alarm bells in my head, but a random example or two from that collection might not conjure up a connection.
Changing the title made me look at this thread, again.