@TommyType said:
But first thing is to wait until you get the coin back. While the website will just tell you, "DNC" (did not cross), the coin will be returned with a label attached indicating WHY it DNC. Could be it, 1) didn't meet the grade criteria requested, or 2) what issue they believed it had, (cleaning, altered surfaces, and a dozen other possibilities).
I've already received the coin back, and the label did not have any information indicating why it DNC. When I called PCGS they could not provide any additional information about it either. Is that unusual?
No, I don’t think that’s unusual.
Based on my limited experience....(I've had 3 coins fail to cross)….It's unusual. Every one came with a PCGS label in a flip, and attached to the NGC slab with a rubberband. They all gave more information than a simple, "DNC".
Now, I will readily admit MY experience may be unusual. In which case, my advice isn't worth much.
Added: When I get home, I'll try to dig out my reject labels, just to show I'm not nuts. (You know...assuming I'm not nuts).
@TommyType said:
But first thing is to wait until you get the coin back. While the website will just tell you, "DNC" (did not cross), the coin will be returned with a label attached indicating WHY it DNC. Could be it, 1) didn't meet the grade criteria requested, or 2) what issue they believed it had, (cleaning, altered surfaces, and a dozen other possibilities).
I've already received the coin back, and the label did not have any information indicating why it DNC. When I called PCGS they could not provide any additional information about it either. Is that unusual?
Not unusual. Check the number on the DNC label, if it ends in 92 it is cleaning, 98 damage, etc.
How about posting a picture of the coin in question?
@Boosibri said:
Not unusual. Check the number on the DNC label, if it ends in 92 it is cleaning, 98 damage, etc.
How about posting a picture of the coin in question?
Ah, interesting. I did not know what those numbers meant. The label is coded 85, which I do not see on the list of 'No Grade' designations on the PCGS website, but I found an old post on this forum from @PCGSCustomerService that stated "An '85' code means 'did not cross'. We were not able to meet or exceed the present grade or the minimum grade you listed."
Not sure if that means it would grade straight but didn't meet the minimum threshold, or if it could also grade details.
Either way, thanks for teaching me something new about the coding system.
@TommyType said:
But first thing is to wait until you get the coin back. While the website will just tell you, "DNC" (did not cross), the coin will be returned with a label attached indicating WHY it DNC. Could be it, 1) didn't meet the grade criteria requested, or 2) what issue they believed it had, (cleaning, altered surfaces, and a dozen other possibilities).
I've already received the coin back, and the label did not have any information indicating why it DNC. When I called PCGS they could not provide any additional information about it either. Is that unusual?
No, I don’t think that’s unusual.
Based on my limited experience....(I've had 3 coins fail to cross)….It's unusual. Every one came with a PCGS label in a flip, and attached to the NGC slab with a rubberband. They all gave more information than a simple, "DNC".
Now, I will readily admit MY experience may be unusual. In which case, my advice isn't worth much.
Added: When I get home, I'll try to dig out my reject labels, just to show I'm not nuts. (You know...assuming I'm not nuts).
That was not my experience last year when I submitted around 50 NGC holdered coins for crossing. A number of them DNC, none of them had any info on their labels or with the coin in any way why.
For what it's worth, these are the labels I've received. Rather descriptive and helpful!
And, to answer the original question:
I sold the 1873...feel I should have suspected it.
I still have the 1858...Like it well enough to retain it, and think it's more darkly toned than "cleaned".
I have the 1923, and think I understand what they are referencing, but don't necessarily agree. Pondering resubmitting.
But, in all cases, I understand that MY opinion is significantly less credible than theirs is.
And rightly or wrongly....I now have a certain...mistrust?...of this "other" TPG. "Fool me once, shame on you....fool me twice...."
Have you checked NGCs site and their pic of your coin? No one has mentioned the possibility of PCGS wondering if it is a counterfeit slab and sandwiched or counterfeit coin.
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Based on my limited experience....(I've had 3 coins fail to cross)….It's unusual. Every one came with a PCGS label in a flip, and attached to the NGC slab with a rubberband. They all gave more information than a simple, "DNC".
Now, I will readily admit MY experience may be unusual. In which case, my advice isn't worth much.
Added: When I get home, I'll try to dig out my reject labels, just to show I'm not nuts. (You know...assuming I'm not nuts).
Not unusual. Check the number on the DNC label, if it ends in 92 it is cleaning, 98 damage, etc.
How about posting a picture of the coin in question?
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Ah, interesting. I did not know what those numbers meant. The label is coded 85, which I do not see on the list of 'No Grade' designations on the PCGS website, but I found an old post on this forum from @PCGSCustomerService that stated "An '85' code means 'did not cross'. We were not able to meet or exceed the present grade or the minimum grade you listed."
Not sure if that means it would grade straight but didn't meet the minimum threshold, or if it could also grade details.
Either way, thanks for teaching me something new about the coding system.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
That was not my experience last year when I submitted around 50 NGC holdered coins for crossing. A number of them DNC, none of them had any info on their labels or with the coin in any way why.
Best, SH
For what it's worth, these are the labels I've received. Rather descriptive and helpful!
And, to answer the original question:
And rightly or wrongly....I now have a certain...mistrust?...of this "other" TPG. "Fool me once, shame on you....fool me twice...."
Have you checked NGCs site and their pic of your coin? No one has mentioned the possibility of PCGS wondering if it is a counterfeit slab and sandwiched or counterfeit coin.