Do you consider a coin a monster based on color or grade as well?

Skrill90

I have always considered a monster to be a combination of color and grade... however I have heard of a differing opinion that it is only based on color. Personally I am torn however when I see a coin such as the one below an ms62 I have a hard time believing its a monster. An ms63 maybe if the color is nice I typically think ms64 and above plus color for it to be a monster. Maybe I'm mistaken. Do you think this ms62 is a monster?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1880-S-MORGAN-DOLLAR-PCGS-MS-62-AMAZING-MONSTER-TONED-OBVERSE/254388420462?hash=item3b3abb3f6e%3Ag%3AtYMAAOSwvb5dfbCR&LH_Auction=1

JBK

Personally, I hate the term "monster" (most often seen as "monster toned") when used to describe a coin.

To me it is just hype, and for me it usually makes me lose interest. Quality does not need to be hyped.

291fifth

The term is pure sales hype and should be ignored.

MFeld

If it’s a “monster”, obviously that’s just in terms of color, but not quality. I feel that many of us think or worry far too much about labels - especially considering that they mean different things to different people.

coinbuf

The term is silly imo, most that I've seen posted with that moniker are cartoonish and garish. Not my cup of tea.

ricko

If I see (or hear) the term 'monster'...I just move on....If I wanted tarnished silver, I would do it myself. A lot cheaper. Cheers, RickO

Nic

@MFeld said:
If it’s a “monster”, obviously that’s just in terms of color, but not quality. I feel that many of us think or worry far too much about labels - especially considering that they mean different things to different people.

He wants a Moose.

topstuf

@MFeld said:
If it’s a “monster”, obviously that’s just in terms of color, but not quality. I feel that many of us think or worry far too much about labels - especially considering that they mean different things to different people.

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FullHorn

A few months back some one here posed the question (maybe the OP?) " Do you consider this coin a Monster?"

I thought it was a joke and answered "Yes". To my surprise many answered and discussed why it didn't qualify as one.

I thought most here would be above such nonsense as to having a "Monster coin threshold". I was wrong. Apparently

you cant just run around tossing out terms like "Monster" or "fresh" without understanding the collecting communities

commonly accepted guidelines.

MasonG

Monster = Marketing

Not that there's anything wrong with that, if that's what you're into.

Cougar1978

I prefer the term PQ. Not a toner fan - coins wellstruck super luster some lt gold may be ok. NO black spots or dark toning or that run over by truck look. PQ material are the top sellers. Many describe coins as original bc these have average to below average luster lol.

Graham

I owned and flipped this coin years ago and while neat, it's not what I would consider a monster. The word is thrown around on ebay a ton and this is pretty much the equivalent of youtube clickbate for the ebay coin world. Trust your eyes, if you have to ask if it's a monster, chances are it's not.

Zoins

You got me to look

At least it doesn’t ask you to L@@K!

privatecoin

I consider a coin a monster if it is more than I can afford

morgandollar1878

No I don't think the Morgan in question is "Monster" toned. Like a few others have mentioned, it is an over used term. It is overused even more on ebay to get views.

RockyMtnProspector

Monstrously toned, maybe.

lcoopie

It depends on who is claiming monster.

DiggerJim

@ricko said:
If I see (or hear) the term 'monster'...I just move on....If I wanted tarnished silver, I would do it myself. A lot cheaper. Cheers, RickO

I am in the same camp as @ricko

But I do understand why they call it a monster. It’s because they’re “Scary Ugly”

Just my opinion of course.

DiggerJim

topstuf

Is "monster" like "noice?"