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Who is PCS Stamps and Coins and how do you get the junk mail to stop?

Normally I wouldn't call someone out on the public forum, but this is beyond ridiculous. I get junk mail from PCS Stamps and Coins once a week to multiple addresses. I've been getting it to address 1 for about a year now. And recently, I had a temporary address this summer while I was away for an internship (address 2), I never shipped a single coin to address 2, and somehow they got address 2 and are sending junk mail to it now! How did they get it? How did they get both addresses?

I don't even know who this company is. I've never done any business with them. How do you get it to stop?

Successful transactions with: wondercoin, Tetromibi, PerryHall, PlatinumDuck, JohnMaben/Pegasus Coin & Jewelry, CoinFlip, and coinlieutenant.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Contact them directly and request they remove you from their mailing list... do it by telephone and mail a request as well. Cheers, RickO

  • CoinPhysicistCoinPhysicist Posts: 603 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2019 8:02AM

    Will they actually stop if I call? Part of me worries they will see a real person lives here and then send even more.

    Edit: Also As I asked, I'm really curious as to how they could get my addresses as I've never bought anything from them and address 2 was only temporary and I never sent anything coin related to address 2.

    Successful transactions with: wondercoin, Tetromibi, PerryHall, PlatinumDuck, JohnMaben/Pegasus Coin & Jewelry, CoinFlip, and coinlieutenant.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Isn't PCS the old Postal Commemorative Society?

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinPhysicist said:
    Edit: Also As I asked, I'm really curious as to how they could get my addresses as I've never bought anything from them and address 2 was only temporary and I never sent anything coin related to address 2.

    If you had your mail forwarded, that's how they got it.

  • CoinPhysicistCoinPhysicist Posts: 603 ✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:

    @CoinPhysicist said:
    Edit: Also As I asked, I'm really curious as to how they could get my addresses as I've never bought anything from them and address 2 was only temporary and I never sent anything coin related to address 2.

    If you had your mail forwarded, that's how they got it.

    I did not.

    Successful transactions with: wondercoin, Tetromibi, PerryHall, PlatinumDuck, JohnMaben/Pegasus Coin & Jewelry, CoinFlip, and coinlieutenant.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinPWhahysicist said:

    @MasonG said:

    @CoinPhysicist said:
    Edit: Also As I asked, I'm really curious as to how they could get my addresses as I've never bought anything from them and address 2 was only temporary and I never sent anything coin related to address 2.

    If you had your mail forwarded, that's how they got it.

    I did not.

    You got no regular mail at the summer address?

    If you had anything sent there, they probably buy the mailing lists from related businesses.

  • AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭

    If they are a legitimate business, there should be an unsubscribe link in the email. For scammers clicking on the unsubscribe link only lets them know that you are reading the email. In that case use the spam filters from your email provider account to intercept them.

    How they got your second address - my guess is big data analytics.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2019 8:34AM

    If they send a reply envelope with metered postage, hit them where it hurt$. Attach it to a box of heavy junk and sent it back with a request to remove you from the mailing list.

  • CoinPhysicistCoinPhysicist Posts: 603 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinPWhahysicist said:

    @MasonG said:

    @CoinPhysicist said:
    Edit: Also As I asked, I'm really curious as to how they could get my addresses as I've never bought anything from them and address 2 was only temporary and I never sent anything coin related to address 2.

    If you had your mail forwarded, that's how they got it.

    I did not.

    You got no regular mail at the summer address?

    If you had anything sent there, they probably buy the mailing lists from related businesses.

    I shipped nothing related to coins remotely to that address all summer. The first junk mail came 2 months after summer ended. I had a box from target.com shipped there and some clothes from J-Crew. Nothing remotely related to coins.

    Definitely scary that somehow they got their hands on an address they shouldn't have known otherwise.

    Successful transactions with: wondercoin, Tetromibi, PerryHall, PlatinumDuck, JohnMaben/Pegasus Coin & Jewelry, CoinFlip, and coinlieutenant.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinPhysicist said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinPWhahysicist said:

    @MasonG said:

    @CoinPhysicist said:
    Edit: Also As I asked, I'm really curious as to how they could get my addresses as I've never bought anything from them and address 2 was only temporary and I never sent anything coin related to address 2.

    If you had your mail forwarded, that's how they got it.

    I did not.

    You got no regular mail at the summer address?

    If you had anything sent there, they probably buy the mailing lists from related businesses.

    I shipped nothing related to coins remotely to that address all summer. The first junk mail came 2 months after summer ended. I had a box from target.com shipped there and some clothes from J-Crew. Nothing remotely related to coins.

    Definitely scary that somehow they got their hands on an address they shouldn't have known otherwise.

    I didn't say anything about coins. They can get your address from Target or J-Crew. These days, they probably also know what you bought from there and probably from anywhere else.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AngryTurtle said:
    If they are a legitimate business, there should be an unsubscribe link in the email. For scammers clicking on the unsubscribe link only lets them know that you are reading the email. In that case use the spam filters from your email provider account to intercept them.

    How they got your second address - my guess is big data analytics.

    They are a legitimate business that has been around for 50 years.

  • CoinPhysicistCoinPhysicist Posts: 603 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinPhysicist said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinPWhahysicist said:

    @MasonG said:

    @CoinPhysicist said:
    Edit: Also As I asked, I'm really curious as to how they could get my addresses as I've never bought anything from them and address 2 was only temporary and I never sent anything coin related to address 2.

    If you had your mail forwarded, that's how they got it.

    I did not.

    You got no regular mail at the summer address?

    If you had anything sent there, they probably buy the mailing lists from related businesses.

    I shipped nothing related to coins remotely to that address all summer. The first junk mail came 2 months after summer ended. I had a box from target.com shipped there and some clothes from J-Crew. Nothing remotely related to coins.

    Definitely scary that somehow they got their hands on an address they shouldn't have known otherwise.

    I didn't say anything about coins. They can get your address from Target or J-Crew. These days, they probably also know what you bought from there and probably from anywhere else.

    Interesting.

    Well hopefully this is a closed matter now and the thread can die. I still think it's very discomforting that they were able to get that address.

    I understand they are a legitimate company, but they should really put up some boundaries on how they are getting people's information for their mailer ads so they don't come off this way. I've never bought anything from them. Someone else had to give them my information, and then somehow they got another piece of my information. It definitely comes off as creepy. They are the only coin company that has done this to me.

    Successful transactions with: wondercoin, Tetromibi, PerryHall, PlatinumDuck, JohnMaben/Pegasus Coin & Jewelry, CoinFlip, and coinlieutenant.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinPhysicist said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinPhysicist said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinPWhahysicist said:

    @MasonG said:

    @CoinPhysicist said:
    Edit: Also As I asked, I'm really curious as to how they could get my addresses as I've never bought anything from them and address 2 was only temporary and I never sent anything coin related to address 2.

    If you had your mail forwarded, that's how they got it.

    I did not.

    You got no regular mail at the summer address?

    If you had anything sent there, they probably buy the mailing lists from related businesses.

    I shipped nothing related to coins remotely to that address all summer. The first junk mail came 2 months after summer ended. I had a box from target.com shipped there and some clothes from J-Crew. Nothing remotely related to coins.

    Definitely scary that somehow they got their hands on an address they shouldn't have known otherwise.

    I didn't say anything about coins. They can get your address from Target or J-Crew. These days, they probably also know what you bought from there and probably from anywhere else.

    Interesting.

    Well hopefully this is a closed matter now and the thread can die. I still think it's very discomforting that they were able to get that address.

    I understand they are a legitimate company, but they should really put up some boundaries on how they are getting people's information for their mailer ads so they don't come off this way. I've never bought anything from them. Someone else had to give them my information, and then somehow they got another piece of my information. It definitely comes off as creepy. They are the only coin company that has done this to me.

    No periodicals shipped there?

    PCS was pretty big at one time, but I assume they are somewhat targeted with the mailing lists they acquire.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I look at so many coins on the Internet for work that "coin-related pop-ups" are shown on any site I visit including ones like "How to body paint your friends. com!" B)

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    I look at so many coins on the Internet for work that "coin-related pop-ups" are shown on any site I visit including ones like "How to body paint your friends. com!" B)

    @Insider2 said:
    I look at so many coins on the Internet for work that "coin-related pop-ups" are shown on any site I visit including ones like "How to body paint your friends. com!" B)

    I....have....no....words......

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stretching the topic slightly but in 1982 shortly after I joined the ANA, I started receiving fixed price lists from companies. I was just finishing HS, so the address was where I grew up and my mother still lives there. After 37 years, one company (not PCS) still sends a FPL to me at that address, even though I never purchased anything from them. So much for updating their mailing list.

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    If they send a reply envelope with metered postage, hit them where it hurt$. Attach it to a box of heavy junk and sent it back with a request to remove you from the mailing list.

    You can't use a return envelope as a label, but this general idea might get their attention.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2019 11:17AM

    I am assuming these are actual letters, not emails? Emails should have an unsubscribe link at the bottom.

    Snail mail addresses get around. Bought, sold, traded. I just focus on all those people the junk mail benefits along the line, such as loggers, paper factory workers, printers, truck drivers, and the USPS. All I have to do is throw it in the recycle bin. ;)

    Years ago I watched as landscapers messed around outside our office complex, ripping out plants, putting in new plants, etc. I lamented at all the money being wasted and an older and maybe wiser coworker replied "that's someone's job."

    I don't like wasting money (or resources) but I have looked st some things a little differently ever since then.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What you want to do is to go to the post office and file form 1500. You can download it online... https://about.usps.com/forms/ps1500.pdf

    You need a piece of US 1st class mail and you have to open it - just slice the envelope and then bring it with the filled out form. Check 1 and 1a.

    Technically, it's a prohibitory order against ""erotically arousing or sexually provocative" material, however the definition is whatever the filer wants it to be. They have 30 days to stop mailing you.

    Make sure you get a copy that is stamped with the post office date stamp.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/39/3008

    (b)Upon receipt of notice from an addressee that he has received such mail matter, determined by the addressee in his sole discretion to be of the character described in subsection (a) of this section, the Postal Service shall issue an order, if requested by the addressee, to the sender thereof, directing the sender and his agents or assigns to refrain from further mailings to the named addressees.

    If you receive something after the 30 days, bring it to the post office and ask them to handle it per the prohibitory order.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was on The Franklin Mint mailing list in the 1970's. I sent dozens of their business envelopes back to them saying to remove my name. It took years before the mail stopped.

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Years ago I watched as landscapers messed around outside our office complex, ripping out plants, putting in new plants, etc. I lamented at all the money being wasted and an older and maybe wiser coworker replied "that's someone's job."

    Older, but I don't know about wiser.

    That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen
    But if, on the other hand, you come to the conclusion, as is too often the case, that it is a good thing to break windows, that it causes money to circulate, and that the encouragement of industry in general will be the result of it, you will oblige me to call out, "Stop there! your theory is confined to that which is seen; it takes no account of that which is not seen."

    It is not seen that as our shopkeeper has spent six francs upon one thing, he cannot spend them upon another. It is not seen that if he had not had a window to replace, he would, perhaps, have replaced his old shoes, or added another book to his library. In short, he would have employed his six francs in some way, which this accident has prevented.
    bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But those landscaping youts were not in France or whatever else they use nor used to use francs, they were here in the US of A and if they were thrown out of their jobs they might have turned to a life of crime and stolen my car or burgled my house. :D

    But of course the general point is sometimes valid.

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    But those landscaping youts were not in France or whatever else they use nor used to use francs, they were here in the US of A and if they were thrown out of their jobs they might have turned to a life of crime and stolen my car or burgled my house. :D

    So those youts got their paychecks and all was well. Except for the other youts who lost their jobs because the money spent on superfluous landscaping wasn't there to spend on an originally planned vacation. And those out-of-work youts end up stealing your car or burgling your house.

  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe that Monument Metals, uses the PCS Stamp & Coin as a return address.....not sure though.

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • Jayyk31Jayyk31 Posts: 76 ✭✭✭

    All of your information, including address, is being sold on the regular. This is what it is nowadays because us people do nothing about it. Its nuts. This and all the robo- calls.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,151 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    If they send a reply envelope with metered postage, hit them where it hurt$. Attach it to a box of heavy junk and sent it back with a request to remove you from the mailing list.

    You don't even have to do that. Just slap a "Priority Mail" sticker on the return envelope.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    any time junk mail includes a return envelope that says "no postage necessary," I always send them back their "junk" that shows my name and address. Such return envelopes require postage to be paid by the vendor when returned to the vendor. They'll get the message.

    Capital investment depends on confidence. - Martin Armstrong

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