Help Needed - Is this 1853 $1 Gold coin real?

TexasdashCoindotcom

Here's the coin:

Is this real?

PerryHall

Real but damaged.

jabba

I’m no expert looks ok to me, some post mint damage. 1853 was a very common year did you weigh it?

TexasdashCoindotcom

@jabba said:
I’m no expert looks ok to me, some post mint damage. 1853 was a very common year did you weigh it?

1.65 grams, approximately. My scale is +/- 0.01 grams

Baley

Coin looks genuine.
45 details but the heavy scrape takes it way down to like VF, IMO

jabba

@TexasdashCoindotcom said:

@jabba said:
I’m no expert looks ok to me, some post mint damage. 1853 was a very common year did you weigh it?

1.65 grams, approximately. My scale is +/- 0.01 grams

New should be about 1.7 grams so I think you are good

jdimmick

Coin looks real to me as well

Boosibri

real but damaged id say

USMarine6

Looks like someone slipped while trying to remove a staple from the 2x2

ilmcoins

Real... nice pics

Kliao

Looks real, any concerns?

mannie gray

Looks good to these eyes.

TomB

Looks genuine, but damaged, though on these small gold coins the certification companies can be a little more forgiving than I am. Regardless, the images are terrific.

Insider2

@Baley said:
Coin looks genuine.
45 details but the heavy scrape takes it way down to like VF, IMO

The OP's coin is in the XF-45 to AU-50 range. It will ALWAYS be that grade if it stays in this condition. The large scratch LOWERS THE VALUE of this XF/AU coin. One member considers this XF/AU coin with a scrape to be only worth VF money. Nevertheless, the coin is NOT in VF condition and this wacko, sillyness should stop.

santinidollar

Genuine but details grade

TexasdashCoindotcom

Thank you all for your opinions. I only asked because:

1) The 1853 is a big target of counterfeiters, being #13 on NGC's "Top 50 Most Counterfeited U.S. Coins" article, here:

https://www.ngccoin.com/resources/counterfeit-detection/top/united-states/13/

2) I have rarely seen high-magnification photos of these tiny $1 pieces because of their incredibly small diameter (12.7mm), and so most photos I see barely include the details of devices on both fields, obverse and reverse. Was curious if the small excess gold surrounding the perimeter of the devices on the reverse (notably, the wreath at the bottom) was indicative of possible transfer-based imperfections in the counterfeiting process. This specific issue confounds me because, as I observe the PCGS page for the 1853 $1 piece, three MS67 or higher grade examples in high resolution do not show this phenomena as apparently. Though it may be subdued or attributable to different die states. Hence my quandary.

Thanks everyone for your input.

Baley

@Insider2 said:

@Baley said:
Coin looks genuine.
45 details but the heavy scrape takes it way down to like VF, IMO

Nevertheless, the coin is NOT in VF condition and this wacko, sillyness should stop.

No one ever said it is..
The conflict is in yer own head
(The word "like" was put in just for your eyes; ya still freaked out anyway)

ricko

@TexasdashCoindotcom ....Welcome aboard..... Nice little gold coin... I agree with the authentic evaluation... and would consider it XF grade....Cheers, RickO

edwardjulio

@TexasdashCoindotcom

If you look at the other images on the PCGS page (55-58 grades), to my eyes, there appears to be a "haloing" on some of the devices. Not absolutely certain, though.