1806 Half Cent Opinions
burfle23
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Received this latest add to my humble collection and wondered opinions of grade, die state, etc!
Please excuse my crude images- working to improve.
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Sorry to say that it looks cleaned and unnatural in color.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I agree with Mark. Definitely looks recolored....especially in the first photo...even the 2nd one.
The color itself, then where the tone changes in a line across
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Unfortunately the obverse toning is due to my poor imaging skills.
Counterfeit coin. Coin has the markings of a known die-transfer:
@burfle23
Your testing us.
You wrote the article on this counterfeit:
https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/struck-counterfeit-coin-week-1806-c-1-half-cent-1-page-attribution-guide/
Was this a test?? If so, members passed....
Cheers, RickO
Not really a test, but I am always interested in thoughts from folks who haven't seen these. I have had these tested by a top metallurgist with early copper experience and he views them just by the science as genuine. With 4 of these in genuine TPG holders I have asked my group at what point do these become "accepted" as a new "genuine variety"...
Initially, I questioned the color on the obverse. Then, I questioned the "C" in CENT and the relation to the leaf in the wreath... I don't think I've ever seen that before on this issue... now I know why!!
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Actually lkenefic this one is accurate to a genuine 1806 C-1; so accurate it picked up the circulation marks of the source including the damaged "A" and scratch over "L". This is the 7th example found with 4 of them in genuine TPG holders.
So, this one is made from dies that used a genuine 1806 C-1 as a template?
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Correct.
Extremely informative articles by OP on counterfeits. Many to read and with a lot of details!
https://coinweek.com/author/jack-d-young/
Bringing this up from time-to-time keeps everyone informed. Glad @burfle23 is a forum member!
I don't like it either. looks bogus
Thank you Hemispherical!
Had examples professionally photographed at ANA; there are actually 2 "die states" for this series of struck counterfeits. The 1st I call the "cut A" for the cut on the "A" of HALF, the second the "filled A" for the apparent attempted repair job done. But you can see the other matching marks and scratches. You can even see die doubling at the date on a couple. The images are both taken through genuine TPG slabs:
It is a copy of the 1806 C-1, Small 6, Stemless.