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1907 $20 Liberty Grade

ilmcoinsilmcoins Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭

I am sending this over to our host. What do you think PCGS will grade it? I will share the current grade after some responses come in.




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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My initial impression is MS62-3...

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  • coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the ding on the cheek keeps it at MS-63

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice 63, congrats!

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  • PhilLynottPhilLynott Posts: 880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll guess 64. Pop reports are strange for this coin 1247 in 64. 23 in 65. 2 in 65+.

    Is this date known for weak luster or something?

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2019 4:51PM

    MS 63

    I would list it’s current grade as minimum grade on submittal form. CDN bid on blue sheet is same for both PCGS and NGC for both services in grades MS 61 - 67 on generics such as this issue so I see no benefit in cross unless upgrade. I certainly would not want pay grading cost on this to take downgrade let alone a tie for that matter.

    CDN GS bid rises from 1420 in 63 to 1720 in 64. I would sell a 63 for around 1800 to 2000.

    If the coin is 63 I don’t see it going to 64.

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  • ilmcoinsilmcoins Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭

    @PhilLynott said:
    I’ll guess 64. Pop reports are strange for this coin 1247 in 64. 23 in 65. 2 in 65+.

    Is this date known for weak luster or something?

    High mintage year but ms65 is a R9... big price jump between ms64 and ms65 too

  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll say 64.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s a 64 coin with a 63 cheek.

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  • ilmcoinsilmcoins Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭

    64 it is...

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2019 8:08PM

    I don’t see much upside crossing with grading fees and shipping. But having done so, submitting as a cross at the same grade or higher makes the most sense.

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2019 8:17PM

    I don’t have anywhere near the expertise as those posting their thoughts on grades (especially trying to grade from photos) but to me the very first photo looks 64, yet the following photos look 62.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks 63+ to me.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Late to the game, would have guessed 63... and at our host, probably....Let us know... Cheers, RickO

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Late to the game, but the first photo made it look like an MS-64. The second one looks like an MS-63. I would say PCGS will say MS-63.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess was and still is PCGS grade MS64

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Solid 64, clean surfaces and nice eye appeal.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with @mannie gray, this should be in a 3+ holder. Too many marks for 4 IMO judging by the photo below, but it appears to have great eye appeal otherwise.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS 63 I think, but still remember the one that almost everyone here said 62 on and it went 64+ with a sticker.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is very pretty and appears to have great skin.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2, 2019 8:57AM

    Nice coin. 5 star coin for sure! Curious how our hosts will grade it. It looks like in hand it’s a real blazer!

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  • LeroyLeroy Posts: 186 ✭✭✭

    It's hard to guess a grade when the coin is blown up as big as a computer monitor exposing every little flaw. I'll bet it's awesome in hand.

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