Yes, but the good ones are few and far between. Even when the designs are great, the execution is a little too Chuck-E-Cheese token for my taste. One of the things I like about Peace dollars, Walkers, and Buff nickels (and many of the classic commems) is the roughness of the design.
This one was well done, and looks nice enough. The ASE design isn't too bad and many of the Platinum reverse designs are good. There were a handful of good designs in the State Quarter program too.
Strangely, I sort of like the obverse of this one, but I wish the relief was much higher. The reverse is garbage.
This coin was designed by Tiffany and Company. You can see "T&Co" below the date. This coin would look really great if it were struck in ultra high relief.
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Yes, they can be.... However, most are too commercialized, lacking real art. Those that do incorporate art (some platinum, ASE's, early Sacagawea's, AGE's (especially the high relief), are real treasures. Cheers, RickO
I say generally no, and I think it's why fewer younger people collect coins. When many of us were kids, we could still find Wheat pennies, Buffalo nickels, etc. in change which sparked interest in the treasures. There are some unique examples posted here though, and I also love the Apollo 11 commem:
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Minted the last few years, no one can state this isn't an attractive modern coin.
I can, it is not an attractive modern coin. It is in fact not a coin at all, but a counterfeit.
It's not a counterfeit. Technically it's a fantasy coin overstruck on a genuine Peace dollar.
AKA a counterfeit. It is certainly not a modern coin.
A “counterfeit” is something created in an attempt to fool the unwary, that it is real.
Mr. Carr’s pieces are representations of coins that never existed, and therefore are neither copies, nor counterfeits.
They are fantasy pieces.
Not necessary, the intent of the maker to deceive the person they are selling to is not a requirement to label something a counterfeit. Think of the Chinese counterfeiters who sell to people that know they are not getting original goods. Here is what Wikipedia says about counterfeits products.
"Counterfeit products are fakes or unauthorized replicas of the real product. Counterfeit products are often produced with the intent to take advantage of the superior value of the imitated product. The word counterfeit frequently describes both the forgeries of currency and documents, as well as the imitations of items such as clothing, handbags, shoes, pharmaceuticals, aviation and automobile parts, watches, electronics (both parts and finished products), software, works of art, toys, and movies."
I understand there is a lot of "group think" among members of this board. They like Mr. Carr, so they come up with crazy rational to justify what they are supporting.
I understand this is not the thread to discuss, Mr. Carr's work, but can we at least agree that they are not coins, and should not be posted in this thread as examples of "Modern coins." Post it in the Mr. Carr thread so I don't have to look at it.
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@abcde12345 said:
Minted the last few years, no one can state this isn't an attractive modern coin.
I can, it is not an attractive modern coin. It is in fact not a coin at all, but a counterfeit.
It's not a counterfeit. Technically it's a fantasy coin overstruck on a genuine Peace dollar.
AKA a counterfeit. It is certainly not a modern coin.
A “counterfeit” is something created in an attempt to fool the unwary, that it is real.
Mr. Carr’s pieces are representations of coins that never existed, and therefore are neither copies, nor counterfeits.
They are fantasy pieces.
I understand this is not the thread to discuss, Mr. Carr's work, but can we at least agree that they are not coins, and should not be posted in this thread as examples of "Modern coins."
You are correct, technically these aren't coins, but are considered tokens. As far as this not being the thread to post these examples, this is his thread. He is allowed to post anything coin related he chooses, whether it be bullion, hobo nickels, hard time tokens or Daniel Carr material
@abcde12345 said:
Minted the last few years, no one can state this isn't an attractive modern coin.
I can, it is not an attractive modern coin. It is in fact not a coin at all, but a counterfeit.
It's not a counterfeit. Technically it's a fantasy coin overstruck on a genuine Peace dollar.
It's definitely not a coin. A coin would have to be issued by a government, would it not? Whether you want to consider it a counterfeit, a fantasy, or a medallic issue, is up to you.
This is a coin forum. The title of the thread is also "modern Coins".
I don't think D Carr stuff should even be allowed on this forum at all, at least in the context of someone proporting them to be a "coin" (except for the couple real state quarters he designed). It really gets me when someone makes a post calling it a "coin." If that isn't deceptive, I don't know what is.
I'm a bit late to this thread, but I have to say the obverse on this coin, so clean and all the focus on Liberty, is in my opinion beautiful. The reverse, not so much....
Also I'm not a "cent" guy but the OP's cent is an exceptional example to me. There is potential but for some reason the mint just doesn't seem to grasp the artistic level we once had.
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@Tomthecoinguy said:
This is a coin forum. The title of the thread is also "modern Coins".
I don't think D Carr stuff should even be allowed on this forum at all, at least in the context of someone proporting them to be a "coin" (except for the couple real state quarters he designed). It really gets me when someone makes a post calling it a "coin." If that isn't deceptive, I don't know what is.
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Yes, but the good ones are few and far between. Even when the designs are great, the execution is a little too Chuck-E-Cheese token for my taste. One of the things I like about Peace dollars, Walkers, and Buff nickels (and many of the classic commems) is the roughness of the design.
This one was well done, and looks nice enough. The ASE design isn't too bad and many of the Platinum reverse designs are good. There were a handful of good designs in the State Quarter program too.
Strangely, I sort of like the obverse of this one, but I wish the relief was much higher. The reverse is garbage.
I vote (not often) and when they are, it is often a classic design reissued
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I think the Sac dollar is an attractive and well done design with the original reverse.
Some are but it is a small percentage.
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I pretty much only deal in modern coins. Some of the best designs by far
Minted the last few years, no one can state this isn't an attractive modern coin.
Yes... Including those minted beyond our borders.
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The only modern series I collect is the $5 gold commemoratives... this is my favorite....
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This coin was designed by Tiffany and Company. You can see "T&Co" below the date. This coin would look really great if it were struck in ultra high relief.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
The 1999 GW $5 is a very attractive coin and one of my favorites.
Anything not hammered?
Yes, they can be.... However, most are too commercialized, lacking real art. Those that do incorporate art (some platinum, ASE's, early Sacagawea's, AGE's (especially the high relief), are real treasures. Cheers, RickO
Mods are a Booming market.
Not my picture, but I really like this design:
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I say generally no, and I think it's why fewer younger people collect coins. When many of us were kids, we could still find Wheat pennies, Buffalo nickels, etc. in change which sparked interest in the treasures. There are some unique examples posted here though, and I also love the Apollo 11 commem:
Many of the APE (American Platinum Eagle) designs are quite beautiful.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
No.
I can, it is not an attractive modern coin. It is in fact not a coin at all, but a counterfeit.
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It's not a counterfeit. Technically it's a fantasy coin overstruck on a genuine Peace dollar.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
AKA a counterfeit. It is certainly not a modern coin.
Join the fight against Minnesota's unjust coin dealer tax law.
A “counterfeit” is something created in an attempt to fool the unwary, that it is real.
Mr. Carr’s pieces are representations of coins that never existed, and therefore are neither copies, nor counterfeits.
They are fantasy pieces.
Not necessary, the intent of the maker to deceive the person they are selling to is not a requirement to label something a counterfeit. Think of the Chinese counterfeiters who sell to people that know they are not getting original goods. Here is what Wikipedia says about counterfeits products.
"Counterfeit products are fakes or unauthorized replicas of the real product. Counterfeit products are often produced with the intent to take advantage of the superior value of the imitated product. The word counterfeit frequently describes both the forgeries of currency and documents, as well as the imitations of items such as clothing, handbags, shoes, pharmaceuticals, aviation and automobile parts, watches, electronics (both parts and finished products), software, works of art, toys, and movies."
I understand there is a lot of "group think" among members of this board. They like Mr. Carr, so they come up with crazy rational to justify what they are supporting.
I understand this is not the thread to discuss, Mr. Carr's work, but can we at least agree that they are not coins, and should not be posted in this thread as examples of "Modern coins." Post it in the Mr. Carr thread so I don't have to look at it.
Join the fight against Minnesota's unjust coin dealer tax law.
I do like mod bullion coins - sell many slabbed ones at shows.
I think of moderns as post 1964.
Absolutely!
I was going to say no ... but some of these examples are quite attractive.
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Very nice
Started collecting these in '99 and always thought they'd look cool in a black Capital holder. Finall bought one a couple of months ago and had a label made at a local trophy shop.
yes
You are correct, technically these aren't coins, but are considered tokens. As far as this not being the thread to post these examples, this is his thread. He is allowed to post anything coin related he chooses, whether it be bullion, hobo nickels, hard time tokens or Daniel Carr material
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Except you only like modern coins when someone has messed up the design...
Technically not a coin. [just saying]
It's definitely not a coin. A coin would have to be issued by a government, would it not? Whether you want to consider it a counterfeit, a fantasy, or a medallic issue, is up to you.
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This is a coin forum. The title of the thread is also "modern Coins".
I don't think D Carr stuff should even be allowed on this forum at all, at least in the context of someone proporting them to be a "coin" (except for the couple real state quarters he designed). It really gets me when someone makes a post calling it a "coin." If that isn't deceptive, I don't know what is.
Join the fight against Minnesota's unjust coin dealer tax law.
I'm a bit late to this thread, but I have to say the obverse on this coin, so clean and all the focus on Liberty, is in my opinion beautiful. The reverse, not so much....
Also I'm not a "cent" guy but the OP's cent is an exceptional example to me. There is potential but for some reason the mint just doesn't seem to grasp the artistic level we once had.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
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