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edjohn1818edjohn1818 Posts: 16
edited July 9, 2019 12:32AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Okay I’m a newbie here so forgive my ignorance. We recently inherited a bunch of coins and we have several unc silver coins, but I’m fairly certain a few have been cleaned at some point. I know that usually destroys the value, but has anyone ever just let them sit for several years to get some kind of patina on them to revalue a little bit? I know the mint luster will never come back, but it just seems a waste to ditch them. I’m aware of the touchy subject of artificial toning, but I’m just talking about letting them sit and let nature take its course. Thanks a bunch.

“Malted milk, malted milk, keep rushing to my head. And I have a funny funny feeling, I’m talking all out my head...” Robert Johnson

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  • Or is this a horrible no-no, spoken of in hushed tones in quiet corners? Get it? Tones? Ba dum bump.

    “Malted milk, malted milk, keep rushing to my head. And I have a funny funny feeling, I’m talking all out my head...” Robert Johnson

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ...unfortunately, time does nothing for a harshly cleaned coin...it’s lipstick on a pig that’s about to be slaughtered for today’s breakfast...have somebody that knows coins take a look...shortly, you will get a request to post pictures, but that’s ok because it makes sense and it’s a coin forum. Good Luck to you either way ;)

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ...and if you got time to let coins sit and naturally tone...why not start with a nice, uncleaned batch instead of trying to lay down turned wine? ;)

  • Well, one is a 1932 D quarter, so I don’t think I’m going to find another one of those. Gutted me when I looked closer at it.

    “Malted milk, malted milk, keep rushing to my head. And I have a funny funny feeling, I’m talking all out my head...” Robert Johnson

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damn...that hurts brother...pretty sure a cleaned 32-d holds more value than just a normal cleaned coin...I still have a hard time differing xf-AU coins from cleaned without a close look ;)

  • I don’t know what to think about this one. Has a fair bit of crispness to it but no luster, so I’m leaning towards 👎. Got an 1893 Columbian commemorative the same way.

    “Malted milk, malted milk, keep rushing to my head. And I have a funny funny feeling, I’m talking all out my head...” Robert Johnson

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @edjohn1818....Welcome aboard....best to post pictures for the most informed opinions....especially for coins of value such as the '32D.....Cheers, RickO

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Time can do good things for lightly cleaned coins. The return of the toning can make the pieces look better and perhaps even "market acceptable" for a straight grade. I know some collectors hate the "market acceptable" term, but it does have merit, especially for pieces with significant overall rarity.

    The coins that have really been messed with (heavy hairlines, polished), are permanently damaged … in most cases.

    When I was shopping for an 1839-C $2.50 gold coin, I ran into five or six polished coins that were put into straight grade holders. The coins almost looked like polished brass buttons. The coins were simply horrible, but they still got Mint State or AU grades and were priced almost as if they didn’t have a problem. That’s why you best defense is to know how to grade the series you are collecting.

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  • Okay, I think I can recognize cleaned by the shine and the swirl marks on the fields, but how can you tell if one is polished? Again, newbie here. Thanks. I’ll try to post pics later on tonight.

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yup, scratches and swirl marks do not go away. We'd like to see some sharp close ups of the obv and rev. Peace Roy

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  • “Malted milk, malted milk, keep rushing to my head. And I have a funny funny feeling, I’m talking all out my head...” Robert Johnson

  • Sorry folks, I know these pics aren’t great, but they are high def and the best I could do. Thanks for looking

    “Malted milk, malted milk, keep rushing to my head. And I have a funny funny feeling, I’m talking all out my head...” Robert Johnson

  • CRH4LIFECRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    Those poor coins :(

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ouch!

    Welcome to the forum @edjohn1818.

    Please post a close-up of the mint mark on the ‘32 please. Not enough resolution to get a good zoom.


  • “Malted milk, malted milk, keep rushing to my head. And I have a funny funny feeling, I’m talking all out my head...” Robert Johnson

  • Hope these are a little better

    “Malted milk, malted milk, keep rushing to my head. And I have a funny funny feeling, I’m talking all out my head...” Robert Johnson

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,784 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 10, 2019 8:28AM

    Not seeing them sight seen:

    Wonder if the Columbian would benefit from a dip. That black streak ruins that coin needs removal. What about the 32-D? The others would leave alone - do u grade them Unc?

    Unless slabbed (it cost me about $50 each for two pieces I sent in regular service $35 with invoice fee and shipping included) would need make decision on submission or just grade Unc (or whatever if less) list them in online store, to sell raw.

    Are these worth enough in your view to justify slab cost?

    Unless there are cleaning marks a dip may improve as long as coin has nice luster

    Investor

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