great morgan with rim hit

davids5104

Came across this coin. Looks terrific. Interested in hearing comments about the rim and how much that impacts this coin.

abcde12345

At 4:00? Not by much I'd imagine.

Kyle

@abcde12345 said:
At 4:00? Not by much I'd imagine.

Looks like there is something going on along the bottom of the rim, hard to tell since the picture is kinda small.

DIMEMAN

I'm not sure that is a hit.....could have come from the mint that way.

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thebeav

What does PCGS call this coin. That might help.....

ricko

If you mean the rim area at 05:30-06:00... that looks as if it may have come from the mint that way...If you have the coin in hand, please show a better picture of the area...Cheers, RickO

davids5104

I do not own the coin. It is a straight graded MS-66. I was referring 5-6 oclock activity

davids5104

@Realone said:
Why not show the reverse?

I was so busy looking at what I thought was an ugly rim on the obverse, I failed to realize that perhaps the reverse will include some information. MYSTERY SOLVED!!!

davids5104

This is an 1899-O btw, I purchased it immediately after seeing it.

37287134 is cert

jabba

That’s cool

johnny9434

i dont see anything to worry about on that coin, jmo

davids5104

@ricko said:
If you mean the rim area at 05:30-06:00... that looks as if it may have come from the mint that way...If you have the coin in hand, please show a better picture of the area...Cheers, RickO

I will have it soon. I am out of town atm, but I will post the cert when I get home

lkenefic

THAT's the rim hit?

PocketArt

That is weird. I looked at the cert. too. Is that a mint error, or, post mint damage? Almost looks as if pressure was exerted on the obverse rim where you indicate a rim hit, and another dollars impression was left on the rim of reverse, on the opposite side, same general area. Interesting. I'm thinking mint error...neat!

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/37287134

Rollerman

I find it to be a very nice coin and an interesting one also.

blu62vette

@davids5104 said:
This is an 1899-O btw, I purchased it immediately after seeing it.

37287134 is cert

This is one to buy as fast as you can.

ifthevamzarockin

@PocketArt
"looks as if pressure was exerted on the obverse rim where you indicate a rim hit, and another dollars impression was left on the rim of reverse, on the opposite side, same general area."

Agree.

The hit may have been inside a mint bag that was dropped and would be PMD.

PocketArt

The denticals appear true form; with the exception of where the "S," and maybe the "T" are superimposed on reverse rim. If you magnify the reverse up to highest level, you can see the letters "FO SETATS" that appear to go under the denticals. Dramatic collar clash of sorts?

Maybe @FredWeinberg or @ErrorsOnCoins could please offer info?

Nap

The impression on the rim “STATES OF” is backwards. So cannot be a double strike.

The coin looks rather nice in other aspects to have such dramatic PMD but I suppose it’s probably what it is. If it was a die issue there would not be damage on the obverse rim.

davids5104

I am just surprised PMD can be so clear, and the pressure can be so significant to generate the letters.

tommy44

WOW! How unusual is that? I love the die crack all the way around he reverse also.

DennisH

Brockage I think.
Extremely cool!!

asheland

Super cool!

davids5104

@PocketArt said:
The denticals appear true form; with the exception of where the "S," and maybe the "T" are superimposed on reverse rim. If you magnify the reverse up to highest level, you can see the letters "FO SETATS" that appear to go under the denticals. Dramatic collar clash of sorts?

Maybe @FredWeinberg or @ErrorsOnCoins could please offer info?

I will send them a message asking them if they would be willing to give their opinion.

FredWeinberg

It's damaged on the rim from another coin
being pressed into your coin.

Damaged rim, not an error, I"m sorry to say.

davids5104

@FredWeinberg said:
It's damaged on the rim from another coin
being pressed into your coin.

Damaged rim, not an error, I"m sorry to say.

Not to rehash this thread. How can there be enough force to generate a perfect imprint on the rim from another coin without damaging the denticles?

Please look at the reverse of the coin that is below the initial image.

lonn47

nice coin.

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD

@DIMEMAN nailed it...that ain’t no hit

steveben

cool coin actually. i like it

CaptHenway

@PocketArt said:
That is weird. I looked at the cert. too. Is that a mint error, or, post mint damage? Almost looks as if pressure was exerted on the obverse rim where you indicate a rim hit, and another dollars impression was left on the rim of reverse, on the opposite side, same general area. Interesting. I'm thinking mint error...neat!

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/37287134

In my professional opinion there is absolutely no question that this coin was damaged AFTER it left the coin press by being somehow pressed against another struck coin. The damage to the obverse rim shows were some force was applied to this coin to press it against the other coin. I do not know whether this occurred in the Mint, such as perhaps by two coins getting jammed in a counting machine, or by the bag the coin was in getting dropped or perhaps struck forcefully either inside or outside the Mint, or perhaps any one of 101 other things that would cause one coin to indent another, but there is no doubt in my mind that it occurred AFTER the coin was struck, and is therefore, by definition, POST MINT DAMAGE.

TD

CaptHenway

Bump

Namvet69

Of it doesn't affect the grade, then it's part of the mystery of unique pmd. Peace Roy

davids5104

Wrong thread

Commencents

My guess the rim "Dent" kept it from a MS67