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ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

So when I left work gold was up a few bucks, I look again this evening and it's up almost $40. What did I miss?

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good question

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,104 ✭✭✭✭✭

    per kitco...... The Federal Reserve did not announce and implement a rate cut today.

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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OPA said:
    per kitco...... The Federal Reserve did not announce and implement a rate cut today.

    I believe the Fed's announcement was at 2pm (Eastern time). There was another huge jump starting about 8pm, and I'm not seeing any news reports that would account for it. Looks like gold is now backing off a little.

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    meluaufeetmeluaufeet Posts: 751 ✭✭✭

    Cow bell from the "P.E". Powell.

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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it's 2011 all over again, 1,380 and climbing. stacking pays off sooner or later

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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The other PMs aren't doing all that much, platinum is now trading at $563 below gold. Unreal.

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    ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭

    @coinpalice said:
    it's 2011 all over again, 1,380 and climbing. stacking pays off sooner or later

    Later. Much later.

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    MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,310 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah that was a very interesting and welcome bump even if it is short term it is fun to see. Palladium is back over $1500. Cool!

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Overdate said:

    There was another huge jump starting about 8pm, and I'm not seeing any news reports that would account for it. Looks like gold is now backing off a little.

    Hong Kong market opened just before 8 pm.

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    LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whereas I have been told I am "patient", apparently fed chairperson guy is no longer... along with the gold bull it would seem

    It's all about what the people want...

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    dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,373 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some liquidity problems in China's banking system, apparently.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    there was a rise from just before 4 eastern to about 4:20 pm eastern.

    then that spike up tonight.

    the volume on futures market for the spike was greater than the 4-4:20pm time

    volume is lighter, but still higher than normal.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmski52 said:
    Some liquidity problems in China's banking system, apparently.

    There's been that for a couple of weeks.

    Do you have a link to new news?

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice to see but not getting too excited until $1500 or so. Sure wish silver would do something, all this weight is sinking my boat.

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

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    maplemanmapleman Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Iran downs us done in intl airspace. Etc.

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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,373 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2019 6:08AM

    There's been that for a couple of weeks.
    Do you have a link to new news?

    Here's what I read, yesterday:

    https://zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-19/meanwhile-china-echoes-lehman-interbank-market-freezes

    The Persian Gulf has been heating up as well.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gold and silver both maintaining their high point today... looks like it could be the middle east situation... and China. Cheers, RickO

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    ARCOARCO Posts: 4,311 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Fed just turned very dovish. Rate cutting into a booming stock market - not now, but the next meeting. They are out of control.

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2019 7:26AM

    Does the feds not lowering interest rates have anything to with this and could somebody please explain to me why this would be the case. Or is this all a result of international events?

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    we are attributing the afternoon rise to the fed.

    what caused the post-8pm eastern rise is a subject of debate

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    Downtown1974Downtown1974 Posts: 6,722 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Meh....for a long term guy like me, it just means I’m not buying now. Holding pattern until we see gold in the 1200s again. At least for bullion anyways.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are we having fun yet?

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    ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is probably a big contributor to the recent spike along with the FED's comments from yesterday:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-says-it-shot-down-a-u-s-drone-11561005235

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    much fun

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm just glad the 13% bucks offer was two weeks ago

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    I started collecting heavily in 2014. If I sold everything today I'd break even on just precious metal content. I should just dump everything and find a less stressful hobby.

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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,373 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does the feds not lowering interest rates have anything to with this and could somebody please explain to me why this would be the case. Or is this all a result of international events?

    I believe that it's almost 100% related to keeping the stock market afloat. Pensions, IRAs, etc.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

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    LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gotboostedvr6 said:
    I started collecting heavily in 2014. If I sold everything today I'd break even on just precious metal content. I should just dump everything and find a less stressful hobby.

    You held as the submarine dove, now you've traded that in for a sail boat and here comes a nice breeze... If you get off now you might miss your plane ticket and maybe even the rocket launch.

    @CaptHenway said:
    Are we having fun yet?

    Not to mention you're be missing out on so much fun..

    It's all about what the people want...

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I lost an ounce of gold. :(

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    LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    I lost an ounce of gold. :(

    Context please...

    physically?

    Through trade?

    I lost my Palladium Maple coin I had about 4 years ago.... Seeing a particular thread, I wonder if it's in my car somewhere...lol

    It's all about what the people want...

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just found it. I lost physical. it was to be sent off to be flipped. I'll let the market tell me when it is time to sell.

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    MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,310 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Knockin' on $1400, good stuff.

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
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    I did well. Sold foreign polished,ex jewelry gold coins 8% over melt. I also dumped $100 face, worn 90% junk for 14x .

    The coin shop was VERY busy. Nothing in the junk silver or bullion bins. Only a few 1/10 eagles priced at $165!

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    when I hit a busy coin shop, I poll the people in line if they are buying or selling. I usually tell them upfront what I'm doing in an effort to make them comfortable.

    you'd be surprised the people buying once the market is heading up.

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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yep, it's called the herd affect

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gotboostedvr6 said:
    I did well. Sold foreign polished,ex jewelry gold coins 8% over melt. I also dumped $100 face, worn 90% junk for 14x .

    The coin shop was VERY busy. Nothing in the junk silver or bullion bins. Only a few 1/10 eagles priced at $165!

    8% over? That is doing well. I think my LCS offers 97% of melt on stuff like that.

    Collector, occasional seller

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    dennis1219dennis1219 Posts: 267 ✭✭✭

    My problem with purchasing gold? I love having it, and looking at it. I don’t want to ever sell it... well maybe if it ever goes over 2k.

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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2019 4:59PM

    Its all the big players creating buzz, to get increase intrest so that they can move out stagnant inventory they have been accumulating over the past flat period. Once they have moved out there material, price will move to a major correction of about 100 bucks. Happened before several times during the past 5-10 years and will again, you can count on it.

    Edited to add: it plays into the herd affect as mentioned above. There is absolutely no ryme or reason gold should be this much higher in this short mount of time. Nothing has changed!

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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    Sure wish silver would do something, all this weight is sinking my boat.

    When the approaching storm hits, you will be thankful for the additional ballast.

    Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar

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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2019 5:10PM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    we are attributing the afternoon rise to the fed.

    what caused the post-8pm eastern rise is a subject of debate

    The east is expressing the same lack of confidence in dollar handlers as those mostly affected by those handlers. It's all about confidence and nothing about war.

    There will be one more hammer on the price before the next big move up.

    Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar

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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dennis1219 said:
    My problem with purchasing gold? I love having it, and looking at it. I don’t want to ever sell it... well maybe if it ever goes over 2k.

    Same hear, hold it close to the vest, don't know why. I too was shocked yesterday. Anything to do with what's going on regarding that oil barge bombing?

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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Technicals. Plain and simple.

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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2019 5:33PM

    Nothing technical about it at all; lack of confidence in the fed and the future value of dollars. plain and simple.

    Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar

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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,373 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is absolutely no ryme or reason gold should be this much higher in this short mount of time. Nothing has changed!

    There is absolutely no reason to believe that it shouldn't have been higher in the first place. The government finances and debt problems certainly haven't changed.

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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    Nothing technical about it at all; lack of confidence in the fed and the future value of dollars. plain and simple.

    Ok...ok...heres the truth. I did it. Remember that thread i started about waking up from my nap? Well, go ahead and check prices. ;)

    Your welcome. :)

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    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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