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Here are the photos of the coin before I sent it in to PCGS. I do not agree with the grade that was returned. I am curious what your thoughts are....
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AU58
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55; you will see a lot of gold coins especially you think have a good shot at Unc. grade 55 or 58 at PCGS.
Looks about AU53 congrats
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It is a beat up AU. Hard to tell what AU to rate it as there is minimal rub but lots of marks. Book grade AU typical= 50; however, only a tiny amount of rub = AU-58 but NOT choice. Blame the ANA for this nonsense!
Nevertheless, I'm going to guess it will come back in a 61 slab.
58, shot 55.
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Most likely AU-58 — Shot MS-61
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AU55
55.
AU-58
Simple the marks are obvious - very baggy.
The loss of luster on the high points is obviously from friction wear (dull change of color) rather than "stacking."
I guessed an AU in a 61 holder. I sincerely hope I'm wrong on this one. I think the excessive marks will sway the graders toward AU.
55+/58ish
AU58 is what it came back as. You all confirmed that PCGS was correct. I was hoping for an MS but it is baggy as mentioned. The lighting I used for the photos really brought that out. It is a beauty in hand!
The bag marks don't make it AU. Even MS coins can be bag marked. It's AU because of light high-point wear and the luster disturbance in the fields. It's still a very nice coin.
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AU-55, perhaps AU-58.
The OP already said it came back from PCGS graded AU58.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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Missed the cutoff.... but not surprised at the AU grade.... Would have said 55...Oh well...
Cheers, RickO
Baggy does not look like the issue to me. There is a fair amount of rub in the fields, especially on the obverse. PCGS graded this one MS-63. It might serve to show you the difference.
late for the game, would have said ditto to a T.
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58 was my first thought. Nice coin!
AU58 here, too.
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@ilmcoins Did PCGS Photograph the subject coin as part of your submission service?
If so, it would be instructive to also view those photos as part of this discussion.
Stuart
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Absolutely correct: The ONLY thing that can make a coin AU is friction wear (unless you are a very knowledgeable copper whizz who uses "Net" grading.) However, it is a proven fact that AU coins with very nice surfaces often get a bump to MS. An old time dealer told me that when he was on the line AU/MS the condition of the surface was very important in his decision.
They did not. I will take better pics in the future.
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Late to the game, but 58 was my impression for exactly the reasons that Perry Hall enumerated.
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