eBay Buyer of a Morgan Dollar to BLOCK

airplanenut

Block this guy: dibitonto

Long story short. I sold an ICG MS64 Morgan Dollar on eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/233211758641?ViewItem=&item=233211758641). A week after delivery, I get a negative feedback saying that I can't grade and that I won't respond to the buyer (feedback got removed, so I don't have the exact wording). Funny thing is, the buyer never contacted me, which eBay confirmed. Feedback went away.

For his next trick, the buyer opened a SNAD. His complaints boil down to disagreeing with ICG's grade, and that being a SNAD. Of course, the coin is accurately listed as an ICG MS64, not a Jeremy MS64, and having seen the coin in hand, the grade is right. It's not a just-miss 65, but it's a nice 64.

eBay screwed up the advice they gave me so they closed the case without making me handle a return, but I think also gave the buyer a refund (and he keeps the coin), so no kudos to them. Anyway, save yourself some trouble and keep this guy far away.

If you want some light reading, here's the case he opened:

Buyer: Listed as MS 64; Just a clean BU,

Me: Hi, Could you please provide more detail about what the issue is with this coin? Perhaps you could send some photographs that may help explain, as well as explain what you mean by "clean BU." Thank you, Jeremy Katz

Buyer: The coin your ad displays has semi prooflike fields and sharp details.. NOT what I received..I will trade you what you sent for a coin like the photo depicts, I am a 50+ year Morgan collector, not a dealer..If you can't deliver, don,t advertise.

Me: Hi, Can you please describe what you did receive? The coin in the photographs is the coin you were sent, is it not? I made no claims about the coin being semi-prooflike, and the photos are not enhanced in any way that would make the strike or details appear any stronger than they actually are. I appreciate that you are a long-time collector. I have sold and photographed tens of thousands of coins and stand behind the accuracy of my images. Thank you, Jeremy Katz

Buyer: READ YOUR AD MS 64 if you don't KNOW grades don't cite them.. I still have the coin in the holder; I can send a picture, but that doesn't change the grade..LIKE I SAID; SEND THE COIN IN THE PICTURE AND i WILL SEND THIS ONE BACK...i CAN STOP PAYMENT ON THE CARD BUT i DON'T WANT TO DO THAT..

Buyer: NEVER MIND..JUST CLOSE THE FILE.. I WILL LIVE WITH IT.;.TOO MUCH OF A HASSLE FOR THE PRICE.. I WILL TELL EBAY..

derryb

THANKS

AUandAG

TY

amwldcoin

In defense of the buyer your closeup pictures used as your primary pictures look much nicer than your slab pictures. They do look totally different from each other surface wise.

ifthevamzarockin

Thanks for the heads up!

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD

...what a loser...lol

Cameonut

TY

ricko

Thanks for the alert Jeremy.... What a farce....just not worth dealing with people like that. Cheers, RickO

drei3ree

These scammer ALERT threads are especially helpful! Thank you airplanenut.

mbogoman

Many thanks. This is one of the best advantages of this board. I'm sure these "outings" have saved many of us Ebay sellers much grief...

airplanenut

@amwldcoin said:
In defense of the buyer your closeup pictures used as your primary pictures look much nicer than your slab pictures. They do look totally different from each other surface wise.

So two responses to that:

1- If one picture makes the coin look worse than the other, assume the worse picture is how the coin looks if you don't know any better.

2- I shoot the slab shots quickly just to have a record of the slab and don't adjust lighting from one coin to the next. If asked, I will always point out that the close-up shots are the ones to use to determine what the coin looks like. If I ever have a slab picture that comes out looking amazing compared to the close-up shot, I'll make a note of it.

Either way, I don't see how that affects anything here. I'll tell you flat out that the close-up shots look just like the coin, so at worst, if you go off the slab shots, you get something nicer. If you go off the main shots, you get what you expect.

amwldcoin

The way I do my pictures is of the whole slab and then move in to just picture the coin....both slab and coin are taken in the same way.

I understand what you are saying. Just thought I would point out the major difference in the look of just the coin vrs. the coin in the slab.

@airplanenut said:

@amwldcoin said:
In defense of the buyer your closeup pictures used as your primary pictures look much nicer than your slab pictures. They do look totally different from each other surface wise.

So two responses to that:

1- If one picture makes the coin look worse than the other, assume the worse picture is how the coin looks if you don't know any better.

2- I shoot the slab shots quickly just to have a record of the slab and don't adjust lighting from one coin to the next. If asked, I will always point out that the close-up shots are the ones to use to determine what the coin looks like. If I ever have a slab picture that comes out looking amazing compared to the close-up shot, I'll make a note of it.

Either way, I don't see how that affects anything here. I'll tell you flat out that the close-up shots look just like the coin, so at worst, if you go off the slab shots, you get something nicer. If you go off the main shots, you get what you expect.

OPA

blocked...thanks for the heads-up