Show off your Topps Venezuelans!

DBesse27 · May 17, 2019 2:26PM

In the last 3 years or so, this has become a significant focus of my card collecting. I searched for a thread and didn't find one, although that could be human error. In any case, please show your Topps Venies below!

I focus on the 1964 and 68 sets although, as a Yaz master collector, I've knocked out all his Topps Venz from other years. I'll conclude this first post with links to my 2 registry sets and then a photo of one of the biggest cards in my collection. Can't wait to see yours!

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/215107

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/215105

JoeBanzai · May 17, 2019 3:21PM

DBesse27 · May 17, 2019 3:37PM

Nice, Joe!

Forgot to mention, I have 101 PSA graded Venz and I’m subbing 20 more this month.

nam812 · May 17, 2019 3:57PM

I don't have any in my collection, but I love seeing these. If anyone can post some backs along with their fronts, that would be great.

DBesse27 · May 17, 2019 4:09PM

@nam812 said:
I don't have any in my collection, but I love seeing these. If anyone can post some backs along with their fronts, that would be great.

Good point. As I'm sure you and others on here know, back damage is often what keeps an otherwise mid grade Venz in a PSA 1 or 1.5 holder. These cards were sold in Venezuela with albums and jars of paste, and made of thinner, softer paper than their American counterparts, so a huge portion of the cards that survived either have paper loss on the back from removal from albums, or glue residue and excess paper from the same.

For me, the point is to own a copy at all, and condition is barely a concern. With that said, I've picked up some in the past 2-3 months with unusually clean backs. I'll show those in my next post momentarily.

DBesse27 · May 17, 2019 4:12PM

DBesse27 · May 17, 2019 4:16PM

As you can see, it's easy to tell if a 64 is Venz because the backs are black, instead of orange.

The 68's are harder to tell. IF the back is intact (big if) there is faint white fine print along a back edge, saying the card was made ("hecho") in Venezuela. Here are some of the nicer 68's I've picked up recently, shown front and back:

Kid4hof03 · May 17, 2019 4:42PM

I love these! I don't have many in my collection right now, but have had some over the years and still have a few on my want list, 1964 Roger Maris and 1977 Thurman Munson being at the top. Here's a Reggie I've had for years

nam812 · May 17, 2019 4:50PM

Thanks for taking the time to add some backs Dan, I really appreciate it.

DBesse27 · May 17, 2019 5:11PM

You’re welcome. Abe, I love that Reggie!

JBrules · May 17, 2019 5:55PM

Great thread Dan. I only own two. Here is my contribution to the thread. It always amazes me when I see one these graded a 4 or better. That Killebrew is of the charts. Has to be the highest graded of him for that year. Dan I never tire of seeing that Yaz. rookie. Digging the 77 Reggie as well.

Kid4hof03 · May 17, 2019 6:12PM

I love both of those Bench cards!

DBesse27 · May 17, 2019 6:18PM

@Kid4hof03 said:
I love both of those Bench cards!

Me too!

softparade · May 17, 2019 6:20PM

Unopened ‘78 Venezuelan??

DBesse27 · May 17, 2019 6:25PM

Wow I wasn’t aware of any Venezuelan Topps in 78!

JBrules · May 17, 2019 6:35PM

@softparade said: Unopened ‘78 Venezuelan

Just learned something new.

stevegarveyfan · May 17, 2019 6:42PM

Wow, these are things of beauty! I don't have any myself, but looking at these, I think I could quickly fall in love with them. Now I want to start a collection.

softparade · May 17, 2019 6:48PM

It’s Zest soap promotion I just learned lol. Not Venezuelan. Weird.

JoeBanzai · May 17, 2019 7:28PM

stevegarveyfan · May 17, 2019 7:35PM

@JoeBanzai said:

Oh man, that is gorgeous!

1963ellsworth22and10 · May 17, 2019 8:50PM

@JoeBanzai said:

Hate to break it to you but that Killebrew is counterfeit. Compare it to this authentic Killebrew, the font on the letters and numbers is completely different.

vintagefun · May 17, 2019 10:20PM

My one and only Venz. Quad HOFer. Decent centering. Clean back. Crease free. I dig it.

cpettimd · May 18, 2019 4:13AM

JoeBanzai · May 18, 2019 4:44AM

Thanks for the info, I wasn't sure which one was real.

swish54 · May 18, 2019 4:45AM

Just got my first ones in within the past year. Don't have back scans, but they all have paper loss and the Maris has pen on the back.

Kid4hof03 · May 18, 2019 4:55AM

The Maris presents really well.

DBesse27 · May 18, 2019 10:40AM

Jim, I have that quad HOFer too, but mine is only a PSA 1.

Chris, that triple HOFer PSA 6 is insane!!

1966CUDA · May 18, 2019 1:07PM

Here is the small group I have acquired. Not positive the Stottlemyer is a Venz or not. What do you think?

DBesse27 · May 18, 2019 2:56PM

Based on coloring, I’m 99% certain stottlemyre IS a Venz

DBesse27 · May 18, 2019 3:33PM

The back is bad and will limit it to a PSA 1 holder, but they don’t get much more significant than this one!

Kid4hof03 · May 18, 2019 3:37PM

Dan, that is a beauty! The 64 Rose is in my top 5 cards of all time list, to have a Venezuelan that presents that well is just awesome!

DBesse27 · May 18, 2019 4:31PM

Thanks! Wasn’t cheap, but worth every penny!

JBrules · May 18, 2019 5:22PM

@DBesse27 said:
The back is bad and will limit it to a PSA 1 holder, but they don’t get much more significant than this one!

Sweet pickup!! Congrats.

swish54 · May 18, 2019 6:26PM

@Kid4hof03 said:
The Maris presents really well.

Yes it does, thank you. No creases.

JoeBanzai · May 18, 2019 7:53PM

bswhiten · May 19, 2019 2:18AM

Cool thread. My few Mick's...they have been around the block a few times

1963ellsworth22and10 · May 19, 2019 6:09AM

I collect the Cubs in 1959 through 1977 Venezuelan sets and still need 1968 Byron Browne (short print) and 1972 Jose Cardenal (exist?), I couldn't pass up this 1966 Cal Koonce a couple of months ago on eBay.

DBesse27 · May 19, 2019 10:07AM

Wow, Joe, a killebrew 6!!

JoeBanzai · May 19, 2019 11:08AM

@DBesse27 said:
Wow, Joe, a killebrew 6!!

I think PSA goes easy on these, that lower right corner looks pretty bad.

The 1967 looks a bit undergraded though?!?!?!?!?!?

akuracy503 · May 19, 2019 1:21PM

Just picked this up for my Clemente PC

JoeBanzai · May 19, 2019 1:23PM

Nice Clemente!

DBesse27 · May 19, 2019 5:01PM

Wow guys, some real eye candy being shared! Just what I was hoping for when I started this thread!

craig44 · May 20, 2019 4:42AM

anyone have a Ryan Venezuelan rookie??

DBesse27 · May 20, 2019 8:51AM

@craig44 said:
anyone have a Ryan Venezuelan rookie??

Not me, but I’m chipping away at the 68 set and need to make peace with the fact i’ll never complete it.

DBesse27 · June 12, 2019 6:28PM

Good news: landed a Venz Pinieilla RC PSA 1

Bad news: it was wrapped in so much tape that, as I hacked away at it, I lightly scratched the back of the slab and deeply scratched the front

Good news: I'm mailing a bulk sub this week, so a crack and resub was more cost effective than a solitary reholder, and since it was only graded a 1, there was nothing to lose.

Here is the card after I cracked it out:

daltex · June 12, 2019 6:35PM

@DBesse27 said:
Good news: landed a Venz Pinieilla RC PSA 1

Bad news: it was wrapped in so much tape that, as I hacked away at it, I lightly scratched the back of the slab and deeply scratched the front

Good news: I'm mailing a bulk sub this week, so a crack and resub was more cost effective than a solitary beholder, and since it was only graded a 1, there was nothing to lose.

Here is the card after I cracked it out:

He had several Rookie Stars cards, but the first was actually 1964.

DBesse27 · June 12, 2019 6:56PM

@daltex said:

@DBesse27 said:
Good news: landed a Venz Pinieilla RC PSA 1

Bad news: it was wrapped in so much tape that, as I hacked away at it, I lightly scratched the back of the slab and deeply scratched the front

Good news: I'm mailing a bulk sub this week, so a crack and resub was more cost effective than a solitary beholder, and since it was only graded a 1, there was nothing to lose.

Here is the card after I cracked it out:

He had several Rookie Stars cards, but the first was actually 1964.

Thanks for letting me know! Either way, I needed it for my 68 set, but I appreciate the clarification about the false rookie designation.

clarke442 · June 13, 2019 9:32AM

A couple of raw scans I could find

DBesse27 · August 23, 2019 10:36AM

Added a couple of 68's:

rexvos · August 24, 2019 6:16AM

@DBesse27 said:

Wally Moon has really elevated the unibrow to an artform.

DavidPuddy · August 24, 2019 6:49AM

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