black beauty nickels

rmuniak

Are the two dark ones considered black beauties . And is the center one (43p) of some value being toned. Any premium!

rmuniak

sorry photo did not take

rmuniak

trying new camera its a jpeg sized it down to 500 pixels whats the problem

thisistheshow

Are you getting an error message of some kind? How far are you getting in the process?

rmuniak

try again

Hemispherical

1943 ED been in the ground.

Reverse P has silver.

1959 whats’s the edge look like?

Black beauty is more of a grey color.

The T word is starting to come to mind.

Edit: T as in sodium thiosulfate. It came to mind when looking at those nickels.

rmuniak

edge is black as well. I have another black 59p as well and 3 58p and 2 1964p. Hard to photograph the tone, but I have a 66p 64d and 62p all toned . Going to coin show today and having them checked out...Have to tell you the 43 has the same coloring as the rest... Are you trying to tell me (t word) that they are phonies. They all came from that bank heist and I think have been is this guys collection since around 1972. The rolls in the heist were all 72 and earlier.

Hemispherical

Planchet error or sintered plating:

http://www.error-ref.com/improper-annealing/

Hemispherical

Quick goog search, “sintered planchet”. Many more slabbed examples out there.

Always lookup the cert number: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/13207984

ricko

It is a fault associated with the annealing process, no added numismatic value. Cheers, RickO

rmuniak

we will see. I trust someone out there is itching to put a few of these in there collections. I could be wrong. I will let you know later today after the coin show... Thanks for the info again you have been very helpful...Ray

bolivarshagnasty

I have an uncirculated 55 black beauty nickel. Let me know if I've won the lottery.

Oldhoopster

@rmuniak said:
edge is black as well. I have another black 59p as well and 3 58p and 2 1964p. Hard to photograph the tone, but I have a 66p 64d and 62p all toned . Going to coin show today and having them checked out...Have to tell you the 43 has the same coloring as the rest... Are you trying to tell me (t word) that they are phonies. They all came from that bank heist and I think have been is this guys collection since around 1972. The rolls in the heist were all 72 and earlier.

If the edge has the same continuous discoloration as the surface, it's not an improperly annealed coin.

dagingerbeasttt

@rmnuiak I could be wrong but i believe this would be an example of a improperly annealed nickel

RogerB

RE: "Quick goog search, “sintered planchet”. Many more slabbed examples out there."

The US mint does not and never has sintered any blank, planchet, coin, or anything else.

rmuniak

Annealing thing is what I am hearing also. Yours is a twin of mine. I will treasure it for its uniqueness . Put it with my varieties.

BillJones

When I see a black, crusty nickel, the first thing that pops into my heard is “corroded.” Black is usually not a good color for copper-nickel coinage.

Oldhoopster

@dagingerbeasttt said:
@rmnuiak I could be wrong but i believe this would be an example of a improperly annealed nickel

Improperly annealed errors are not common. However, the 75Cu25Ni Alloy used for nickels and the outer clad layers on dimes, quarters, and halves are susceptible to environmental damage resulting in a darker appearance. If you watch your change or search coin rolls, you’ll come across these damaged coins frequently. Unless a coin is found in a mint sealed bag, you have no idea what it has been exposed to during circulation.

A well known and respected error dealer posted tips on one of these forums for distinguishing the uncommon improperly annealed errors from the ubiquitous environmentally damaged coins. One key is to look at the edge of the coin. The edge of Improperly annealed coins will look like normal coins. While harder to judge with nickels, there should be some areas that have the normal appearance from where the coin was ejected from the collar. If the discoloration on the edge is solid, then you have coin that is environmentally damaged.

Only relying on the appearance of the obverse/reverse surfaces is not a definitive way to confirm an improperly annealed coin, especially with the known environmental reactivity of nickels and clad coins.

Smudge

Metal detector finds?

dagingerbeasttt

@Oldhoopster said:

@dagingerbeasttt said:
@rmnuiak I could be wrong but i believe this would be an example of a improperly annealed nickel

Improperly annealed errors are not common. However, the 75Cu25Ni Alloy used for nickels and the outer clad layers on dimes, quarters, and halves are susceptible to environmental damage resulting in a darker appearance. If you watch your change or search coin rolls, you’ll come across these damaged coins frequently. Unless a coin is found in a mint sealed bag, you have no idea what it has been exposed to during circulation.

A well known and respected error dealer posted tips on one of these forums for distinguishing the uncommon improperly annealed errors from the ubiquitous environmentally damaged coins. One key is to look at the edge of the coin. The edge of Improperly annealed coins will look like normal coins. While harder to judge with nickels, there should be some areas that have the normal appearance from where the coin was ejected from the collar. If the discoloration on the edge is solid, then you have coin that is environmentally damaged.

Only relying on the appearance of the obverse/reverse surfaces is not a definitive way to confirm an improperly annealed coin, especially with the known environmental reactivity of nickels and clad coins.

Mine was found in a bu roll of Jeff's. The edge does look normal, but it could be or could not be improperly annealed. And thanks for the info .

291fifth

"Dirty Gold" was successfully promoted on this forum. Will "Black Beauty Nickels" be next? (I'll be sitting on the sidelines, popcorn in hand.)

BillJones

@291fifth said:
"Dirty Gold" was successfully promoted on this forum. Will "Black Beauty Nickels" be next? (I'll be sitting on the sidelines, popcorn in hand.)

So will I. I am only half sold on crusty gold. So far as black nickels are concerned, I'll pass.

leothelyon

@BillJones said:

@291fifth said:
"Dirty Gold" was successfully promoted on this forum. Will "Black Beauty Nickels" be next? (I'll be sitting on the sidelines, popcorn in hand.)

So will I. I am only half sold on crusty gold. So far as black nickels are concerned, I'll pass.

I think you would like this one.

rmuniak

In your search for the perfect full strike coin you must have a starting area that jumps out first as a full strike. Is it in the hair or the portal between the middle columns? Also the blackened and the toned coins to me are beautiful and I am starting a side collection of them. Worthless as some say, but non-the-less desirable to me... Kudos by the way on your collection...