Part II I understand PCGS offers a re conditioning service. Do you think this 1921 Morgan would be a
Dreverett1
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I understand PCGS offers a re conditioning service. Do you think this 1921 Morgan would be a good candidate?
I wanted to ask a follow up question regarding this coin. I’m hoping this coin is a good example to discuss. I was reading grading standards etc this afternoon. When a coin is being graded I understand from reading the catalogs and info offered on the site there’s a cartwheel affect when viewing a coin. I decided to take another look at this coin and take some photos at different angles. There’s some pretty nice toning when viewing at different angles. Are these different angles taken into consideration during the grading process? The straight on photo looks completely different than photos taken at the angles. If anything it sure looks pretty cool and neat to share.
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Sure send it in. Its value will go from $20 to $20.
For that, you'll probably pay $50 or $60 and it will be returned to you exactly as you sent it. If they did happen to dip it, it would become a dull, boring, grey coin worth about $20.
As an aside...... I'm curious about the sudden interest from low-post count individuals in restoring coins with little to no numismatic value. It seems likely to be a new twist on trolling, but could just be someone who needs to learn a little more about the basics of grading.
Personally I would look for another coin to send in for conservation the first time.. I would use a mint state coin.
They certainly look at all angles. For example, in my latest submission I had a WLH come back unc details cleaned, I missed a patch of parallel hairlines on the flag that were only visible from one angle, well hidden but they are there and I missed them before submitting because I didn't take my time or use the right light.
As far as toning goes, I can certainly appreciate a darkly toned coin when it doesn't obscure the luster, would be a shame to dip such.
Collector, occasional seller
I’m wondering if I would loose the toning on the reverse if I decided to do the restoration. The obverse looks to be the pain point. All my coins hold a sentimental value. They are all family heirlooms so I don’t mind paying a bit to bring the coin back to its somewhat original look.
Don't do anything with this coin, it's fine the way it is.
Collector, occasional seller
What exactly do you see on that coin that needs restoration? Toning is not something they will consider for restoration.
bob
I will repost the straight on pictures and then the pictures at the angle. The straight on pictures are what started the restoration questions/ concerns s couple days back. Not sure if you read that conversation. It’s the same title as this one, just titled part 1. The straight on photos are the last 2, probably obvious. .
I think it's a great candidate so please post photos when it returns
...there’s an echo in here...time for a joint and some late-night playoff hoops
I would not recommend restoration if you are considering value.....if you want to improve the appearance of an heirloom and intend to keep it, then try an MS70 soak... understanding you may uncover some unattractive marks that are presently hidden. Most will recommend keeping it as is....Cheers, RickO
RE: "I'm curious about the sudden interest from low-post count individuals in restoring coins with little to no numismatic value. "
Maybe there was a pop-media article about huge profits in rare coin washing...?
The internet has made information and misinformation widely available and easily ignored.
First of all, the 1921-P Morgan Dollar is a very common coin. It's not worth spending any money on it to get it restored or graded unless it is something MS-65 or 66 at a minimum.
So far has cartwheel luster is concern, think of this as "cartwheel luster" in a still picture. If you swirl this coin around under the light the white patch will go around the coin continuously in an unbroken pattern. That is a clear indicator that you have a Mint State coin or something very close to it.
There is no process that can restore luster. Once it’s gone, it’s gone.
To add to @BillJones excellent description of cartwheel luster here is a quick vid by our host:
Thank you