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Real or not 1889-CC

PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

Here is the photo


Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd vote counterfeit. It has fake toning, not evenly applied and partially rubbed off the reverse, covering mildly granular surfaces that don't appear to be silver.

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Counterfeit

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can't put a finger on it but it's not got the correct look. Perhaps a VAM-2 but I agree with above that it's a fake.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a real VAM 4. Kind of trashed, but real. Abused Morgans, which are plentiful, can take on all sorts of weird looks.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2019 12:59PM

    Pat, check the weight and do a "ring" test. my hunch is that it's light and has a thud-sound. we see more fakes than real coins to the point that I don't even entertain any sellers any more. it probably weighs around 22-23 grams. the downside on 89-CC's isn't worth the risk.

    this one looks NG.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The other possibility is that it's a sandwich coin made from two real ones.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    More fake stuff.... the market is flooded it seems.... Caveat emptor.... Cheers, RickO

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,399 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do you have a photo of the edge or third side of that coin?

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like what's coming out of China these days.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,828 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's withhold a judgment pending a report as to the weight. Let's complete a reasonable investigation before claiming it's a counterfeit.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,681 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It just doesn't look right. The coloration looks very artificial.

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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Weight is close enough to be within limits

    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thebigeng said:
    Do you have a photo of the edge or third side of that coin?

    No edge photo

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks cleaned to a fault and exergue is rough. IMO. Peace Roy

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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It just doesn’t feel right
    Or have a natural look in hand

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,090 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks genuine, but with environmental damage and then harshly cleaned.

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The date position did not match a graded one
    Is there more than one date position?

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PTVETTER said:
    The date position did not match a graded one
    Is there more than one date position?

    Yes

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2019 1:00AM

    Nope !!! :'(

    Timbuk3
  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,734 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's fake. It just doesn't look right.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,208 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks bogus to me. Jmo

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