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ajaanajaan Posts: 17,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I need a trade dollar for my type set and saw this one on eBay. I'm no trade dollar expert and I know there are a lot of fakes out there. Can you tell if this is real or not? TIA

https://ebay.com/itm/1878-S-US-Trade-Silver-Dollar/312569893769?hash=item48c69e1389:g:pycAAOSwCMRcsLv0


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    thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks genuine, but every time I looked at it I would see those light scratches in the obverse field.

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    HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ajaan said:
    I need a trade dollar for my type set and saw this one on eBay. I'm no trade dollar expert and I know there are a lot of fakes out there. Can you tell if this is real or not? TIA

    https://ebay.com/itm/1878-S-US-Trade-Silver-Dollar/312569893769?hash=item48c69e1389:g:pycAAOSwCMRcsLv0

    Pulled out the pics:

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It actually looks like it could be counterfeit. I don't like the way the fields look. There's also something off about the bottom of the obverse.

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    OriginalDanOriginalDan Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks real to me, and if you don’t mind a VF with scratches, that’s about as cheap as they come these days.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The relief does look a bit shallow in the center of the obv….could be the pics.

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It actually looks like it could be counterfeit. I don't like the way the fields look. There's also something off about the bottom of the obverse.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    The relief does look a bit shallow in the center of the obv….could be the pics.

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It actually looks like it could be counterfeit. I don't like the way the fields look. There's also something off about the bottom of the obverse.

    Yeah, hard to tell. The angle could be responsible for what I'm seeing.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Photo looks like a genuine coin. I see other things in this sellers listings that would make me avoid. You might not get the coin in the photos. Several red flags in my eyes, buy at your own risk.

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    kbbpllkbbpll Posts: 542 ✭✭✭✭

    Images are not crisp enough but I am always suspicious when I see parallel lines across a coin. In the field next to AMERICA on this one.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,503 ✭✭✭✭✭

    pass. theres some thing there that I don't like. jmo

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd find a slabbed example, even if breaking it out for an album... Then you have some assurance.

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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are you really going to buy from someone that likes mustard colored carpet?

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 21,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Authenticity aside, that coin looks like it's been cleaned and has rather uneven color. You shouldn't have to pay much more for a more appealing example (and a slabbed one, at that).

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,112 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    Authenticity aside, that coin looks like it's been cleaned and has rather uneven color. You shouldn't have to pay much more for a more appealing example (and a slabbed one, at that).

    Where? I've been looking.


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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The OP coin looks genuine-ish, but with issues. Trade Dollars and Seated Dollars have been counterfeited enough that I'm looking for a slab bed specimen for my type set...

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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭

    real but not nice

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    sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LindeDad said:
    Are you really going to buy from someone that likes mustard colored carpet?

    Mustard? I would describe it more like "Nauseous Green".

    Agree with others. No reason to chase this one.

    If it were $25-$50 cheaper and your weren't very discriminating.....maybe. But it isn't and you should be.

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    ilmcoinsilmcoins Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭

    Im not a fan, and not sure about authenticity

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    TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Real but cleaned.

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    vplitevplite Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭

    Something not quite right about the coin. Maybe just a bad cleaning.

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    rte592rte592 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ajaan, PM sent

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    karenrenkarenren Posts: 78 ✭

    I have the same questions. How people identify them? Are there any tips?

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    KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can get better for few bucks more looks too polished.

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    KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the set I got from coin company.

    Best place to buy !
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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LindeDad said:
    Are you really going to buy from someone that likes mustard colored carpet?

    Looks pea green to me. At least it's not shag.

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,112 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rte592 said:
    ajaan, PM sent

    Never received your PM


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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,481 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The photo is not good enough to say yea or ney on this one. Like some others, I see reasons to think that it is real, and then other aspects of the image make me think the other way. The Trade Dollar is one of those types, perhaps THE type that most collectors should only buy certified. Buy a certified piece and crack it out if you have to do that.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks real, but very trashy.... not one I would consider....Cheers, RickO

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are currently a few VF details slabbed examples on eBay for $160-$180 and if you keep looking, an XF/AU details slabbed example can be had in that same price range (a few have sold for that and more should show up via auction or buy-it-now).

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 21,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    Authenticity aside, that coin looks like it's been cleaned and has rather uneven color. You shouldn't have to pay much more for a more appealing example (and a slabbed one, at that).

    I've certainly seen some at recent shows. I can't give as satisfying an answer as "here you go," but they are out there... might just take some looking (easier said than done).

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    MrMonkeySwag96MrMonkeySwag96 Posts: 118 ✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019 2:18PM

    This is my first and only Trade dollar, a 1876-S graded AU58 by NGC

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