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Large Cent Variety

peterolsonpeterolson Posts: 6
edited April 11, 2019 11:31AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I recently received a grade and trueview for an 1803 large cent I have. I was unable to attribute variety on my own, so I paid for the service from our host.

They identified it as a small date/small fraction, S-263. Unfortunately, they detailed it for being cleaned. Too bad.

https://pcgs.com/cert/37093320

Any thoughts on the attribution? I am still not sure.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @peterolson asked: "Any thoughts on the attribution? I am still not sure."

    Since you have a computer, why not go to Google and type in: 1803 1c S-263. See if the images match your coin.

  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your coin is an S-263. Not particularly rare and, unfortunately, given its condition, not particularly valuable.

    Walter Breen's Encyclopedia of Early United States Cents is available on-line via the PCGS website. Whilst not particularly easy to use in its electronic format, it does provide guidance on attributing early Large Cents.

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @peterolson asked: "Any thoughts on the attribution? I am still not sure."

    Why do you say you are still not sure? Because you see a discrepancy? Or you don't trust PCGS?

    It is simple enough to use Coinfacts and view the different die marriages. Here is the link for the BN 1803 S-263.

    And here is an AU58 from there. Yours matches.
    Lance.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @peterolson .... Welcome aboard.... Between PCGS attribution and the inputs above, I believe you can now 'be sure'. Cheers, RickO

  • matt_dacmatt_dac Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is some cool history in such an old coin. Just imagine the transactions and who may have held that coin in their pocket over the last 216 years? https://history.state.gov/milestones/1801-1829/louisiana-purchase

    It's challenging to find raw examples that don't have environmental damage considering the age and metal. I think you would have been tagged with that if not from the cleaning from the pitting I see in the pictures. Still a cool piece of history.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They identified it as a small date/small fraction, S-263. Unfortunately, they detailed it for being cleaned. Too bad.

    You would be surprised at what a skillful, old copper coin doctor can do. Actually I support their work when they are restoring old copper coins that have been cleaned. It is a matter of preservation because exposed, "virgin copper" can be prone to corrosion.

    NGC bounced this one back on me years ago for "artificial toning." I'd be willing to bet that it's in a straight gade holder now.


    As for the cleaning on this piece, it may have done to remove something other than normal toning. It's the reason way some old copper was smoothed years ago.

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