morgans dollars
PedroP
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PedroP
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PedroP
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Hola! Bonita!
Is that 8 over 8
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Nice coin!
Looks like a 5B...but I'm not seeing any clashing. Not 100% sure.
i really like the reverse, and die crack makes it interesting..... Cheers, RickO
Vote Pedro!! Wow... that is one stunning coin!
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Easy 65 at least in my book. Nice GSA!
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Really neat.
I can see that in a 66 holder actually.
Cool!
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Looks like a very nice 66 GSA.
congrats!
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Easy 64, too - but based on the images, both 64 and 65 grades would be quite unfair.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Sweet coin
Beautiful coin. Looks like a MS66 to me.
What is not to like:
It's a Carson City dollar
It has color
It has a white reverse
It has a smooth cheek and few contact marks
Textile toning on forehead
Beautiful Rainbow coloring
It's a GSA still in the case
Stunning in my opinion.....and a strong 65+ or better.
bob
Bueno, muy magnifico!
Nice coin👍😄
What AUandAG said.
nice morgan and I do like the nice clean fields on it. ill go with what mfeld said on this as well. jmo
It's a beautiful looking Morgan Dollar and I hate to be the one to be a party pooper, but the obverse image has tell tale signs of digital doctoring. The magic healing brush and clone tool have been used in the field in front of Liberty as well as across her cheek. I couldn't even guess as to what the actual grade is because of the manipulation. The reverse looks original and from what I can see, appears to be untouched in Photoshop.
Edit: After reviewing the image of the reverse a little more, it show signs of similar digital manipulation. I don't know the Posters intent is with showing us these images. I just want the forum members to know that the images have in fact been manipulated with tools other than simple adjustments for White Balance, Hue and Saturation and Levels.
Reverse is noice! Obverse could use a bath. Congrats
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Utter foolishness. You can't prove at all what you are accusing this new member of doing. Did he also make those other cool holders and coins out of thin air? If you want to see a digitally altered coin, take a look at your avatar. It is a totally juiced joke. Do not throw stones in a glass house and the rules around here say, NO MORE BULLYING NEW MEMBERS.
But if that is not bad enough, take a look at @jtlee321 image from his website. I have never seen a more juiced/altered image in my life.
PS, added, don't you think the "PRO" would have at least removed the hairs on his image before snapping and juicing them?
Me cuentan muchas mentiras sobre mi? Soy amigo de todos. Esta moneda también está en la cárcel desde 1937.
That is a die clash... from the C in CENT
Collector, occasional seller
https://29a.ch/sandbox/2012/imageerrorlevelanalysis/
I noticed the "softness" as well but didn't figure there would be any motivation to post a doctored photo so thought nothing of it.
But it looks like @jtlee321 is right based on error level analysis. http://fotoforensics.com/tutorial-ela.php
Same thing on the 1888 Proof
Here is the photo you've decided to bring up from the pro
Collector, occasional seller
So I can't prove at all what I am saying huh? Ok, let's take a look at the 1883-CC Morgan from the OP and examine the details, shall we? Hint, click on the images to enable a 100% view of each image below.
Here is the original as posted in the OP.
Here is the same image that I have highlighted tell tale signs of the the "Clone Brush" tool in Photoshop. What you are looking for are repeated artifacts. Look within the areas I circled in red for some of the more obvious cloning. Notice how you see patterns being repeated exactly the same?
Here again is the image originally posted that illustrates the unnaturally smooth/blurred areas that are signs of the "Healing Brush" tool from Photoshop. Look at the areas inside the areas circled in red and notice how there is not texture remaining of the surface of the metal? Now look outside those red circled areas and you can see the natural texture of the metal remaining. The most prominent areas are in the field just in front of Liberty's forehead and nose, her forehead itself, eye and the fields around the stars and E • PLU. Notice how the texture of the metal disappears and becomes unnaturally blurry and smooth as you leave the rim and move into the fields?
And last but not least, your attack on me, accusing me of doing the same thing that is going on in the OP's image? You couldn't be further from the truth. The supposed "hairs" you see in the image of the 1899 Indian Cent are the edges of clash marks and not at all hairs. The color is factually representative of what the coin looks like in hand. The particular patina and color is very iridescent in nature. Meaning it only appears when the angle of reflected light is just right. I have originally shot the cent when it was raw using axial lighting to highlight the color. The coin has since been straight graded by ANACS and resided in a holder. I have shot a video of the obverse and reverse to let you actually see the coin. I cannot achieve the same effect of shooting the coin raw because of the glare and reflection of light from the plastic slab. But I believe the iPhone video should show enough to get an idea that my images are representative of the actual coin and not "juiced/altered" as you claim.
Also, here is a video of the reverse of the 1913 T2 Buffalo Nickel that I use as my avatar.
Any other false accusations you would like to try and make against me? I am in no way bullying a new member. I am clarifying why some members feel that the image of some of the OP's coins just don't look right. If you have a problem with the truth, perhaps you need to go elsewhere.
Wow!! This is pretty cool! I have never heard of that site before. Thank you for providing the link.
Those tools are awesome but probably not objective enough for some lol
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@HeatherBoyd Heather. Please notice the bullying in this thread of the new member by @jtlee321 @ChrisH821. @jtlee321 is also doing the same in another thread. I was under the impression this was no longer allowed here, in very clear terms. Thank You.
@zippyzip
"PS, added, don't you think the "PRO" would have at least removed the hairs on his image before snapping and juicing them?"
Looks like you started this whole thing with your first post to this thread and now you want Heather to clean up your mess.
Please post a strait on iPhone shot of the Indian cent above so we can see what it really looks like. As far as I can tell, a GSA coin is also shot through plastic. You say you can't do that? Send the coin to Pedro and maybe he can help.
The forensic site listed above is a joke. Go read all the disclaimers. Colors throw the results off. re-saving an image throw the results off. At least 5 other things throw the results off. Geez, really?
Interesting how you ignore the other coins he posted. An omission of all facts makes you a liar.
Finally, stop hijacking everything he posts. Some of us enjoy seeing nice coins that were not found in a parking lot.
Learn to read before posting: This was what started the mess of a great thread and coins.
I am very happy to be banned for defending a new member who appears to be polite and a Gentleman, as long as the instigators are taken along for the ride.
There is no fact at all. Accusing a member of deceit based on an opinion is NOT FACT, it is bullying. If he is holding the coins, then he can state it as fact. I am not going to fall into the same thing as jtlee, but all of his coin images look enhanced. If you have to tilt a coin at just the right angle under perfect light to get it to look beautiful, that is deception.
You DO know that he has very similar styles to TrueViews... right? Perfect lighting, just the right angle... They are called glamour shots. Not deception at all, just great photography presenting a coin in it's best possible way. Not for everyone, but nothing deceptive at all.
Perhaps you should learn to read before posting, I've commented positively on all the coins that Pedro has posted. Hell I even threw in a "Vote for Pedro" shirt from Napoleon Dynamite because I liked his postings. Get real dude, pointing out some image manipulation does not equate to bullying, but if it does, you are doing(trying) exactly that.
Collector, occasional seller
How is this bullying? They are responding to your ridiculous posts, and they are correct.
Are you telling me that typing in extra-large font doesn't make people take me more seriously? I've been doing it wrong all these years.
Welcome to the forums @Funbags... Interesting.
Glad this is done with.
Reference: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1016630/new-forum-rule-trolls-alts-and-bans
If you don't feed them they will go away. Sort of like stray cats.
Pretty amazing Pedro/Wabbit/Zippy all the same person responding in this thread. Pedro no habla englais, LOL!
Looks like both sides on the 1888 need a bath. Congrats
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