Chief's Tyreek Hill in a world of trouble (allegedly)

hammer1

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article227983684.html

perkdog

Ok Chiefs, let’s see you release Hill now.

craig44

I honestly wonder what some of these guys IQ is. It is not that difficult to go through life and not abuse people.

perkdog

https://www.kctv5.com/news/police-investigate-incidents-of-suspected-child-abuse-at-home-of/article_21d5fb58-4737-11e9-9d0d-e781fc6fd330.html. The Chiefs will be the biggest joke of a franchise if they don’t release Hill IF he is found guilty of child abuse.,

Justacommeman

Sounds like someone needs some anger management geez

m

Darin

The timing is incredible because for the last couple weeks the Chiefs have been saying they're
in negotiations with Tyreek to offer him a new contract.
He may have just cost himself a ton of money for complete stupidity, of course the child's safety is the
most important concern, get him away from Tyreek if allegations turn out to be true.
Then cut his sorry ass.

bronco2078

naming a kid Tyreek is child abuse

Justacommeman

if true it should be jail. Cutting him is automatic.

m

lightningboy

Now that they know abuse is equal to half a season (Hunt,) there is no way they cut him and let another team reap future rewards..

HJP717

Too bad it won’t be jail time.

Coinstartled

League of dirt bags. Sorry to the NFL fans here but the parade of deranged behavior never eds.

craig44

This does seem to be a trend

thisistheshow

@lightningboy said:
Now that they know abuse is equal to half a season (Hunt,) there is no way they cut him and let another team reap future rewards..

I would be surprised if they saw it this way.

BLUEJAYWAY

With all these domestic related situations not only is the perp on trial, but the system as well. To properly mete out correct punishment. Discard the favoritism factor.

perkdog

WOW didn’t know the history of this guy. https://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article228014084.html

Justacommeman

@perkdog said:
WOW didn’t know the history of this guy. https://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article228014084.html

That’s why I said he had anger management issues and should go to jail if found culpable

m

perkdog

@Justacommeman said:

@perkdog said:
WOW didn’t know the history of this guy. https://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article228014084.html

That’s why I said he had anger management issues and should go to jail if found culpable

m

He should have went to jail after punching his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach. That is malicious

erikthredd

Saw this question asked elsewhere,who faces a harsher penalty here;Tyreek Hill for possibly breaking his son's arm or the Patriots fan who threw a beer at Hill during a Pats-Chiefs game in Foxboro?

erikthredd

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26605711/hill-heard-audio-discussing-son-abuse-case

Tyreek Hill is heard discussing striking his son on an audio recording of the Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver speaking with his fiancée, Kansas City television station KCTV reports.

Crystal Espinal, Hill's fiancée, is heard on the recording asking Hill, "Why did he say daddy did it? Why did he say daddy did it?''
Hill replies, "He says daddy does a lot of things.''

Espinal then says, "A 3-year-old is not going to lie about what happened to his arm.''

"Daddy did it," Espinal said, paraphrasing the boy. "He is terrified of you."

Hill responded, according to the recording: "You need to be terrified of me, too, b----."

Later in the recording, Espinal says, "He kept saying 'Daddy punches me,' which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open up his arms, and you punch him in the chest. Then if he gets in trouble, you get the belt out.''

This pos needs to be sent to prison for a very long time.

perkdog

My opinion of the Chiefs organization is so low it’s not even funny. They release Hunt -which was a huge PR stunt for them in my opinion to make them look good yet a huge part of the offense and success for Mahomes abuses a child and they look the other way, what a joke. No offense to Darin but it is what it is

LarkinCollector

Why does it seem like the NFL has a disproportionate amount of these issues compared to other major sports leagues?

If he did it, throw the book at him, but the timing of this release is quite suspicious, coming one day after it was announced no charges would be filed.

craig44

If he did this, he should never play football again. It takes a real big man to beat a child. What a looser

SanctionII

Feral wot?

Coinstartled

@LarkinCollector said:
Why does it seem like the NFL has a disproportionate amount of these issues compared to other major sports leagues?

Because the fans condone it. Thugs make good football players. Abusers, rapists and addicts are all welcome as long as they perform on Sunday.

perkdog

@Coinstartled said:

@LarkinCollector said:
Why does it seem like the NFL has a disproportionate amount of these issues compared to other major sports leagues?

Because the fans condone it. Thugs make good football players. Abusers, rapists and addicts are all welcome as long as they perform on Sunday.

That might be pushing it, the amount of total players in the NFL and amount of players in legal trouble or whatever is not that big proportionaly speaking in my opinion

galaxy27

i don't think there's another card out there that could do a better job of eliciting mixed emotions from @Darin quite like this one

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PANINI-FLAWLESS-TRIPLE-ONE-OF-ONE-KANSAS-CITY-CHIEFS-PATRICK-MAHOMES-HILL-KELCE/372658592801?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=34b05d7cc5184ce3b257c37f9d86d16b&pid=100675&rk=2&rkt=15&sd=122079627415&itm=372658592801&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:87e8e0d8-6871-11e9-b257-74dbd1802e2b|parentrq:5bbc871216a0a9cb0f7c08fbfffba294|iid:1

erikthredd

@LarkinCollector said:
Why does it seem like the NFL has a disproportionate amount of these issues compared to other major sports leagues?

If he did it, throw the book at him, but the timing of this release is quite suspicious, coming one day after it was announced no charges would be filed.

It just got reported that the authorities for this case just reopened Hill's investigation this afternoon after that audio got released by a local news network.

Coinstartled

@perkdog said:

@Coinstartled said:

@LarkinCollector said:
Why does it seem like the NFL has a disproportionate amount of these issues compared to other major sports leagues?

Because the fans condone it. Thugs make good football players. Abusers, rapists and addicts are all welcome as long as they perform on Sunday.

That might be pushing it, the amount of total players in the NFL and amount of players in legal trouble or whatever is not that big proportionaly speaking in my opinion

How big does it have to be? These are not traffic violations or past due library books. Maybe they are all mentally ill from concussions, I dunno, but the professional sport offers me nothing.

Tabe

What do you guys think of Adrian Peterson playing in the NFL?

Coinstartled

@Tabe said:
What do you guys think of Adrian Peterson playing in the NFL?

Somewhere between Charles Manson and OJ Simpson.

JoeBanzai

@Coinstartled said:

@Tabe said:
What do you guys think of Adrian Peterson playing in the NFL?

Somewhere between Charles Manson and OJ Simpson.

Really?

Comparing him stupidly punishing his child WAY to harshly and murder?

Coinstartled

Manson never killed anyone and OJ was never convicted.

Coinstartled

...Peterson is more in the John Wayne Gacy league.

Estil

@HJP717 said:
Too bad it won’t be jail time.

He's been a repeat offender of this sort of thing since 2014....or course there'll be...

https://youtu.be/k841SCfkNvc

bronco2078

@Estil said:

@HJP717 said:
Too bad it won’t be jail time.

He's been a repeat offender of this sort of thing since 2014....or course there'll be...

https://youtu.be/k841SCfkNvc

I want to wear the suit Ernest is wearing but.... I want to wear Ricky's hat with it

perkdog

@Tabe said:
What do you guys think of Adrian Peterson playing in the NFL?

The guys a scumbag in my opinion, you want to bare bottom spank your child then have at it, I’m cool with that and don’t think there is enough of that anymore but you want to pretend it’s 1932 and get a “Switch” and beat your kid with it? Hit his private area? Sorry that’s abuse. He deserved that suspension, I don’t think he deserved to be banned though

JoeBanzai

@Coinstartled said:
...Peterson is more in the John Wayne Gacy league.

Wow, I always thought your posts were a bit off the wall, but you are a sick person.

@perkdog said:

@Tabe said:
What do you guys think of Adrian Peterson playing in the NFL?

The guys a scumbag in my opinion, you want to bare bottom spank your child then have at it, I’m cool with that and don’t think there is enough of that anymore but you want to pretend it’s 1932 and get a “Switch” and beat your kid with it? Hit his private area? Sorry that’s abuse. He deserved that suspension, I don’t think he deserved to be banned though

Peterson is an idiot, but I think this was a isolated incident.

JoeBanzai

@Coinstartled said:
Manson never killed anyone and OJ was never convicted.

Peterson was not convicted of child abuse either.

"If he completes the terms of his two-year deal, he would not have a conviction on his record,"

Coinstartled

@JoeBanzai said:

@Coinstartled said:
Manson never killed anyone and OJ was never convicted.

Peterson was not convicted of child abuse either.

"If he completes the terms of his two-year deal, he would not have a conviction on his record,"

You have an odd way of choosing your heroes. What if he beat his wife or parent in the same fashion, would you accept that as appropriate behavior? I got off the athlete worship train a long time ago. You should too.

Estil

@perkdog said:

@Tabe said:
What do you guys think of Adrian Peterson playing in the NFL?

The guys a scumbag in my opinion, you want to bare bottom spank your child then have at it, I’m cool with that and don’t think there is enough of that anymore but you want to pretend it’s 1932 and get a “Switch” and beat your kid with it? Hit his private area? Sorry that’s abuse. He deserved that suspension, I don’t think he deserved to be banned though

If it's wrong to do it to a dog or a cat, then it's wrong to do it to a child. Period.

perkdog

@Estil said:

@perkdog said:

@Tabe said:
What do you guys think of Adrian Peterson playing in the NFL?

The guys a scumbag in my opinion, you want to bare bottom spank your child then have at it, I’m cool with that and don’t think there is enough of that anymore but you want to pretend it’s 1932 and get a “Switch” and beat your kid with it? Hit his private area? Sorry that’s abuse. He deserved that suspension, I don’t think he deserved to be banned though

If it's wrong to do it to a dog or a cat, then it's wrong to do it to a child. Period.

Hitting a dog or cat is absolutely wrong, spanking a child is a good practice when done correctly. Totally different scenarios

Estil

They key words are "when done correctly".

JoeBanzai

@Coinstartled said:

@JoeBanzai said:

@Coinstartled said:
Manson never killed anyone and OJ was never convicted.

Peterson was not convicted of child abuse either.

"If he completes the terms of his two-year deal, he would not have a conviction on his record,"

You have an odd way of choosing your heroes. What if he beat his wife or parent in the same fashion, would you accept that as appropriate behavior? I got off the athlete worship train a long time ago. You should too.

Hero? Can you read? Peterson is/was an idiot. In addition to punishing his child MUCH too hard he has multiple children with multiple women, he even had one child he didn't even know about.

On a lesser note he also liked to crush people's hands when first meeting them while shaking hands. Childish.

Comparing him to a serial killer is ridiculous.

@Estil said:

@perkdog said:

@Tabe said:
What do you guys think of Adrian Peterson playing in the NFL?

The guys a scumbag in my opinion, you want to bare bottom spank your child then have at it, I’m cool with that and don’t think there is enough of that anymore but you want to pretend it’s 1932 and get a “Switch” and beat your kid with it? Hit his private area? Sorry that’s abuse. He deserved that suspension, I don’t think he deserved to be banned though

If it's wrong to do it to a dog or a cat, then it's wrong to do it to a child. Period.

It is legal to spank your children, what Peterson did was wrong.

Estil

legal/illegal =/= morally right/wrong

JoeBanzai

@perkdog said:

@Tabe said:
What do you guys think of Adrian Peterson playing in the NFL?

The guys a scumbag in my opinion, you want to bare bottom spank your child then have at it, I’m cool with that and don’t think there is enough of that anymore but you want to pretend it’s 1932 and get a “Switch” and beat your kid with it? Hit his private area? Sorry that’s abuse. He deserved that suspension, I don’t think he deserved to be banned though

I don't think you have to go back to 1932. Getting "whipped" with a belt or switch was common in the 1970's when I was a young man.

I stayed out of trouble for the most part, but got "the belt" a couple of times.

NEVER used either on my children. Very seldom gave spankings.

@Estil said:
legal/illegal =/= morally right/wrong

The point I was trying to make was that as a parent, you are allowed to spank your children.

You are NOT allowed to physically punish your girlfriend/wife for any reason except MAYBE self defense and then you will probably get charged with assault.

Estil

You shouldn't be purposely hurting anyone (especially loved ones) unless you really, REALLY have to.

steel75

I agree with a previous post when it comes to Kareem Hunt. A big part of it was a public relations move, not because "he lied to us". Plus I guarantee they thought this was a 1 and done situation. "Let's bite the bullet on this one" never thinking it would happen again. But they set a precedent for themselves and now they know they are screwed.

JoeBanzai

@Estil said:
You shouldn't be purposely hurting anyone (especially loved ones) unless you really, REALLY have to.

Very true.

perkdog

@JoeBanzai said:

@perkdog said:

@Tabe said:
What do you guys think of Adrian Peterson playing in the NFL?

The guys a scumbag in my opinion, you want to bare bottom spank your child then have at it, I’m cool with that and don’t think there is enough of that anymore but you want to pretend it’s 1932 and get a “Switch” and beat your kid with it? Hit his private area? Sorry that’s abuse. He deserved that suspension, I don’t think he deserved to be banned though

I don't think you have to go back to 1932. Getting "whipped" with a belt or switch was common in the 1970's when I was a young man.

I stayed out of trouble for the most part, but got "the belt" a couple of times.

NEVER used either on my children. Very seldom gave spankings.

@Estil said:
legal/illegal =/= morally right/wrong

The point I was trying to make was that as a parent, you are allowed to spank your children.

You are NOT allowed to physically punish your girlfriend/wife for any reason except MAYBE self defense and then you will probably get charged with assault.

I got the belt as well in the 70’s, I still say a switch is a little over the top especially when hitting a child on his chest. Let’s not even begin to bring up his privates getting hit

JoeBanzai

@perkdog said:

I got the belt as well in the 70’s, I still say a switch is a little over the top especially when hitting a child on his chest. Let’s not even begin to bring up his privates getting hit

Not in any way saying what Peterson did was ok, but it was reported (by Peterson's defense I'm sure) that the boy had put a plastic bag over his sister's head and that's what set him off.

perkdog

@JoeBanzai said:

@perkdog said:

I got the belt as well in the 70’s, I still say a switch is a little over the top especially when hitting a child on his chest. Let’s not even begin to bring up his privates getting hit

Not in any way saying what Peterson did was ok, but it was reported (by Peterson's defense I'm sure) that the boy had put a plastic bag over his sister's head and that's what set him off.

I know your not defending Peterson’s actions in this case, I get what your saying and believe you understand my points as well