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Would it be helpful if PCGS added “no grades” in Pop. Reports?

I’ve often wondered about how many “no grades” there are for certain rare varieties. For example, the 1820 50c O.107 “no serifs” seems to appear quite often, but in the form of problem coins, making me wonder if it is as rare as the population report makes it seem.
Would you find it helpful if PCGS added “no grades to the pop. Reports? Or maybe show a separate number indicating the number of no grades for that particular year or variety? Or am I the only one who would find these numbers useful?

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  • REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes. NGC does it.

  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,090 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have always thought there should be a new column for total graded as compared to all the population totals for coins graded AND slabbed.

    It would help to reduce some of the misconceptions surrounding modern coins in particular where many believe 70's are easy compared to 69's, looking at the slabbed population numbers alone.

    If it also helps with classics as well I would vote yes, but I am not sure if no grades is the same as just number graded.

  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    More information cannot be a bad thing........

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've wanted this for years. It would be very helpful especially for varieties.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not at this late date. If done from the beginning: submissions, rejections, authentications, grades - it would have been a lot of help. Now - after 30+ years - it's just more noise.

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The pop report is so wrong these days what difference does it make? Millions of coins have been cracked and not reported.

    How often tougher coins come to auction is the real pop report. If rarely, the pop is low!

  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    Not at this late date. If done from the beginning: submissions, rejections, authentications, grades - it would have been a lot of help. Now - after 30+ years - it's just more noise.

    As a bean counter in my past life, who’s to say some if not all TPGs’ bean counters haven’t kept those stats from the beginning :o

    Best answer is to ask them B)

  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 10, 2019 2:07PM

    They most certainly know what the current number is. It would be helpful on rare items.

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The population numbers are already corrupt... and coins that have been given a 'no grade' are resubmitted, I am sure occasionally they receive a grade. The base is out of control and cannot be brought back at this late date. Of course, if the TPG's adopt computer grading, the whole game can start again.... Cheers, RickO

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 10, 2019 2:15PM

    A separate "no grade" pop report might be useful but to pollute the already skewed pops with this would not be the best idea. It might help with specific rare coins or varieties but not for the overall health of the pops in general imho.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not at all, bad idea - would skew pertinent data.

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  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree. No.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 10, 2019 6:00PM

    For coins where the total number of survivors is low, it would be a good thing.

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  • savitalesavitale Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would like to see a single column for with the population for Details coins, separate from the straight grades.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,300 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 10, 2019 7:47PM

    Given details coins have grades now, e.g. Unc Details, AU Details, etc., that level of differentiation could be provided too.

    The type of details should be easy to add since it's in the coin number for the grade.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would that change the estimated survivors in all grades?

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