Actually, he listed it as "near uncirc ?" which is an interesting grade in and of itself.
Clearly listed as Uncirculated. (From XF details slab)
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well, right above where you circled it also says "near uncirc ?"
He should change the "BU" to "BS"
LOL. I don't disagree. But that's why I'm surprised anyone would pay $9100 for that coin. Although I suppose they can always return it. But seems like it is pretty obviously circ in the photo and only a rich moron would bid
won't matter on a chargeback. And I doubt he'll run for one coin, he's been around awhile
The 1880-CC sold for $225, I am sorry I didn't get to them in time.
Please PM me with any future counterfeits, I don't always check threads regularly, time is of the essence.
@cheezhed said:
I just tried bidding on an ICG 63 1878 S Morgan, I guess he didn't like me calling him out on the gold flip from HA.
Honestly, I would have blocked you also. how would I know you're not going to screw with my auctions? At least one person on this board has done just that: intentionally won auctions he had no intention of paying for.
I think people are so used to being duped, whether by corporate media, professional wrestling, or, their idealogy, they just take it happily without realization they had been robbed.
So long as we have fast food, a bi-polar corporate media, and face book; it's a free for all with fraud...the seller is just a budding entrepreneur in a stupid, and stupider society. Good for him!
@cheezhed said:
I just tried bidding on an ICG 63 1878 S Morgan, I guess he didn't like me calling him out on the gold flip from HA.
Honestly, I would have blocked you also. how would I know you're not going to screw with my auctions? At least one person on this board has done just that: intentionally won auctions he had no intention of paying for.
I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you defending this persons sales practices? Are you saying he should be left alone and not called out?
@PocketArt said:
The ultimate mason jar has been opened...!
I think people are so used to being duped, whether by corporate media, professional wrestling, or, their idealogy, they just take it happily without realization they had been robbed.
So long as we have fast food, a bi-polar corporate media, and face book; it's a free for all with fraud...the seller is just a budding entrepreneur in a stupid, and stupider society. Good for him!
Good for the seller for what he’s doing? I hope you were being facetious.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@cheezhed said:
I just tried bidding on an ICG 63 1878 S Morgan, I guess he didn't like me calling him out on the gold flip from HA.
Honestly, I would have blocked you also. how would I know you're not going to screw with my auctions? At least one person on this board has done just that: intentionally won auctions he had no intention of paying for.
I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you defending this persons sales practices? Are you saying he should be left alone and not called out?
No. I'm saying that if a would-be buyer is making too much noise, I don't trust them. I've had people eff with my auctions by running them up and not paying intentionally. One person on this board has done it with counterfeit coins. So, from the seller side, I would block someone who is messing with me.
@cheezhed said:
I just tried bidding on an ICG 63 1878 S Morgan, I guess he didn't like me calling him out on the gold flip from HA.
Honestly, I would have blocked you also. how would I know you're not going to screw with my auctions? At least one person on this board has done just that: intentionally won auctions he had no intention of paying for.
I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you defending this persons sales practices? Are you saying he should be left alone and not called out?
I should add that while sleezy there is nothing illegal about breaking a coin out and selling it raw. So while I'm not exactly defending the sleezeball, I think people should be a little careful about being vigilantes.
@PocketArt said:
The ultimate mason jar has been opened...!
I think people are so used to being duped, whether by corporate media, professional wrestling, or, their idealogy, they just take it happily without realization they had been robbed.
So long as we have fast food, a bi-polar corporate media, and face book; it's a free for all with fraud...the seller is just a budding entrepreneur in a stupid, and stupider society. Good for him!
Good for the seller for what he’s doing? I hope you were being facetious.
Yes, I'm being facetious to a degree Mark. Greed is a double edged sword...the buyer is seeking fortunes, and the seller is looking for susceptible deep pockets. Both parties are preying on each others ignorance. Does greed give favor to the lesser? No. Just a lesson to be learned if warnings, and advice not taken. The propensity of fraud is increasing to the degree of those not making wise decisions. Shiny objects prevail. I agree, not good what seller is doing...but neither is the greed of the buyer. I think these problems attract parties on both spectrum's that cant be solved with our best intentions Mark.
@PocketArt said:
The ultimate mason jar has been opened...!
I think people are so used to being duped, whether by corporate media, professional wrestling, or, their idealogy, they just take it happily without realization they had been robbed.
So long as we have fast food, a bi-polar corporate media, and face book; it's a free for all with fraud...the seller is just a budding entrepreneur in a stupid, and stupider society. Good for him!
Good for the seller for what he’s doing? I hope you were being facetious.
Yes, I'm being facetious to a degree Mark. Greed is a double edged sword...the buyer is seeking fortunes, and the seller is looking for susceptible deep pockets. Both parties are preying on each others ignorance. Does greed give favor to the lesser? No. Just a lesson to be learned if warnings, and advice not taken. The propensity of fraud is increasing to the degree of those not making wise decisions. Shiny objects prevail. I agree, not good what seller is doing...but neither is the greed of the buyer. I think these problems attract parties on both spectrum's that cant be solved with our best intentions Mark.
Why do you assume that the buyer is “seeking fortunes”?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@PocketArt said:
The ultimate mason jar has been opened...!
I think people are so used to being duped, whether by corporate media, professional wrestling, or, their idealogy, they just take it happily without realization they had been robbed.
So long as we have fast food, a bi-polar corporate media, and face book; it's a free for all with fraud...the seller is just a budding entrepreneur in a stupid, and stupider society. Good for him!
Good for the seller for what he’s doing? I hope you were being facetious.
Yes, I'm being facetious to a degree Mark. Greed is a double edged sword...the buyer is seeking fortunes, and the seller is looking for susceptible deep pockets. Both parties are preying on each others ignorance. Does greed give favor to the lesser? No. Just a lesson to be learned if warnings, and advice not taken. The propensity of fraud is increasing to the degree of those not making wise decisions. Shiny objects prevail. I agree, not good what seller is doing...but neither is the greed of the buyer. I think these problems attract parties on both spectrum's that cant be solved with our best intentions Mark.
Why do you assume that the buyer is “seeking fortunes”?
They are lured by the advertising? Whatever shiny is thrown before them.
@PocketArt said:
The ultimate mason jar has been opened...!
I think people are so used to being duped, whether by corporate media, professional wrestling, or, their idealogy, they just take it happily without realization they had been robbed.
So long as we have fast food, a bi-polar corporate media, and face book; it's a free for all with fraud...the seller is just a budding entrepreneur in a stupid, and stupider society. Good for him!
Good for the seller for what he’s doing? I hope you were being facetious.
Yes, I'm being facetious to a degree Mark. Greed is a double edged sword...the buyer is seeking fortunes, and the seller is looking for susceptible deep pockets. Both parties are preying on each others ignorance. Does greed give favor to the lesser? No. Just a lesson to be learned if warnings, and advice not taken. The propensity of fraud is increasing to the degree of those not making wise decisions. Shiny objects prevail. I agree, not good what seller is doing...but neither is the greed of the buyer. I think these problems attract parties on both spectrum's that cant be solved with our best intentions Mark.
Why do you assume that the buyer is “seeking fortunes”?
They are lured by the advertising? Whatever shiny is thrown before them.
You might be correct. However, unless you know how he became aware of the listing, how much he plans to bid, what he plans to do with the coin if he wins it and what he’s thinking, you’re making assumptions that might be wrong.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@cheezhed said:
I just tried bidding on an ICG 63 1878 S Morgan, I guess he didn't like me calling him out on the gold flip from HA.
Honestly, I would have blocked you also. how would I know you're not going to screw with my auctions? At least one person on this board has done just that: intentionally won auctions he had no intention of paying for.
I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you defending this persons sales practices? Are you saying he should be left alone and not called out?
No. I'm saying that if a would-be buyer is making too much noise, I don't trust them. I've had people eff with my auctions by running them up and not paying intentionally. One person on this board has done it with counterfeit coins. So, from the seller side, I would block someone who is messing with me.
I've run up prices beyond believable on counterfeit coins. Never on a real coin and if I don't know for sure I don't bid.
When required I paid for all of them, usually within 48 hours. I don't pay immediately and allow ebay to do it's thing and nuke the bids/auction. Occasionally I actually got a coin shipped to me and then just returned as SNAD with full refund from Paypal. I had to wait a week or two generally to get my funds back but have never been out of pocket on any fake I've won.
Most sellers realized what was happening and took the coins to a coin shop and had it explained and then just cancelled the sale and my money refunded. That was a good 90% of all sellers. Before paying, a polite note to the seller generally got this result.
bob
Oh, and I'm blocked on many a sellers site.
Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
@PocketArt said:
The ultimate mason jar has been opened...!
I think people are so used to being duped, whether by corporate media, professional wrestling, or, their idealogy, they just take it happily without realization they had been robbed.
So long as we have fast food, a bi-polar corporate media, and face book; it's a free for all with fraud...the seller is just a budding entrepreneur in a stupid, and stupider society. Good for him!
Good for the seller for what he’s doing? I hope you were being facetious.
Yes, I'm being facetious to a degree Mark. Greed is a double edged sword...the buyer is seeking fortunes, and the seller is looking for susceptible deep pockets. Both parties are preying on each others ignorance. Does greed give favor to the lesser? No. Just a lesson to be learned if warnings, and advice not taken. The propensity of fraud is increasing to the degree of those not making wise decisions. Shiny objects prevail. I agree, not good what seller is doing...but neither is the greed of the buyer. I think these problems attract parties on both spectrum's that cant be solved with our best intentions Mark.
Why do you assume that the buyer is “seeking fortunes”?
They are lured by the advertising? Whatever shiny is thrown before them.
You might be correct. However, unless you know how he became aware of the listing, how much he plans to bid, what he plans to do with the coin if he wins it and what he’s thinking, you’re making assumptions that might be wrong.
True. I just believe these sort of outlandish listings attract similar people, who are drawn to this form of advertising, along with the perceived hopes and promises of what they are told....and many are too lazy to go beyond that to learn.
Yes, these are my assumptions. I own them- calloused I suppose.
I think the psychology of getting scammed is well understood. It's a form of "confirmation bias". I'm not surprised at the positive feedback. Even if or when they realize that the 200 year old pottery barn thing is a total hoax, they will still believe they got a sweet deal.
@cheezhed said:
I just tried bidding on an ICG 63 1878 S Morgan, I guess he didn't like me calling him out on the gold flip from HA. > > > > >
Honestly, I would have blocked you also. how would I know you're not going to screw with my auctions? At least one person on this board has done just that: intentionally won auctions he had no intention of paying for.
I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you defending this persons sales practices? Are you saying he should be left alone and not called out?
No. I'm saying that if a would-be buyer is making too much noise, I don't trust them. I've had people eff with my auctions by running them up and not paying intentionally. One person on this board has done it with counterfeit coins. So, from the seller side, I would block someone who is messing with me.
I've run up prices beyond believable on counterfeit coins. Never on a real coin and if I don't know for sure I don't bid.
When required I paid for all of them, usually within 48 hours. I don't pay immediately and allow ebay to do it's thing and nuke the bids/auction. Occasionally I actually got a coin shipped to me and then just returned as SNAD with full refund from Paypal. I had to wait a week or two generally to get my funds back but have never been out of pocket on any fake I've won.
Most sellers realized what was happening and took the coins to a coin shop and had it explained and then just cancelled the sale and my money refunded. That was a good 90% of all sellers. Before paying, a polite note to the seller generally got this result.
bob
Oh, and I'm blocked on many a sellers site.
I'm not criticizing you.
But, for example, I had a set of "Million Dollar Morgans" that I was selling. They are CLEARLY marked copy on the back, but a guy ran them up to $400+ with a username "counterfeithunter" and then didn't pay. So, if I feel like someone wants to eff with me, I nuke them. I mean, I'm not intentionally selling counterfeits as real or overgrading coins or telling fake back stories. Just trying to make a buck here or there.
@PocketArt said:
The ultimate mason jar has been opened...!
I think people are so used to being duped, whether by corporate media, professional wrestling, or, their idealogy, they just take it happily without realization they had been robbed.
So long as we have fast food, a bi-polar corporate media, and face book; it's a free for all with fraud...the seller is just a budding entrepreneur in a stupid, and stupider society. Good for him!
Good for the seller for what he’s doing? I hope you were being facetious.
Yes, I'm being facetious to a degree Mark. Greed is a double edged sword...the buyer is seeking fortunes, and the seller is looking for susceptible deep pockets. Both parties are preying on each others ignorance. Does greed give favor to the lesser? No. Just a lesson to be learned if warnings, and advice not taken. The propensity of fraud is increasing to the degree of those not making wise decisions. Shiny objects prevail. I agree, not good what seller is doing...but neither is the greed of the buyer. I think these problems attract parties on both spectrum's that cant be solved with our best intentions Mark.
Why do you assume that the buyer is “seeking fortunes”?
They are lured by the advertising? Whatever shiny is thrown before them.
You might be correct. However, unless you know how he became aware of the listing, how much he plans to bid, what he plans to do with the coin if he wins it and what he’s thinking, you’re making assumptions that might be wrong.
True. I just believe these sort of outlandish listings attract similar people, who are drawn to this form of advertising, along with the perceived hopes and promises of what they are told....and many are too lazy to go beyond that to learn.
Yes, these are my assumptions. I own them- calloused I suppose.
Thank you for the reply.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
This is on the dockter's EBay ad. The guy is surely looney. LOL
"Should any items be removed, this is not my doing. Ebay allows for a hand picked group of high fee paying sellers to remove coins they feel are competing with their sites. SAY NO TO Their GESTAPO!!"
@jmlanzaf
I've never reported coins with COPY on them. Ebay doesn't like them as it's against their rules to sell them but they are legal to sell as they meet the Hobby and Protection Act's requirements.
And, I don't remove any coins at all. Just report them so that ebay can look and make the decision. In the end it's ebay's decision, not ours.
bob
PS: I don't have an ebay alt for reporting...just use my real handle.
Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
@cheezhed said:
I just tried bidding on an ICG 63 1878 S Morgan, I guess he didn't like me calling him out on the gold flip from HA.
Honestly, I would have blocked you also. how would I know you're not going to screw with my auctions? At least one person on this board has done just that: intentionally won auctions he had no intention of paying for.
I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you defending this persons sales practices? Are you saying he should be left alone and not called out?
I should add that while sleezy there is nothing illegal about breaking a coin out and selling it raw. So while I'm not exactly defending the sleezeball, I think people should be a little careful about being vigilantes.
What "thedockter" is doing is not just sleezy, it is against eBay rules, thus illegal ie:
This seller, kremlin_collector, just sold an 1849-c $5 Gold Liberty to my friend, on eBay, for $1,225.55: https://ebay.com/itm/-/123526929327/?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true
This is a form of shilling. The seller just cancels the sale if he doesn't get enough $$$ and than relists under his alt account and he doesn't have to pay FVF's.
'the dockter' and the 'kremlin_collector' I suspect are one and the same. I wouldn't be surprised if this sleaze bag has more names he sells under. Does anyone know if "IT" is selling real coins and not just pictures.?
@cheezhed said:
I just tried bidding on an ICG 63 1878 S Morgan, I guess he didn't like me calling him out on the gold flip from HA.
Honestly, I would have blocked you also. how would I know you're not going to screw with my auctions? At least one person on this board has done just that: intentionally won auctions he had no intention of paying for.
I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you defending this persons sales practices? Are you saying he should be left alone and not called out?
I should add that while sleezy there is nothing illegal about breaking a coin out and selling it raw. So while I'm not exactly defending the sleezeball, I think people should be a little careful about being vigilantes.
What "thedockter" is doing is not just sleezy, it is against eBay rules, thus illegal ie:
This seller, kremlin_collector, just sold an 1849-c $5 Gold Liberty to my friend, on eBay, for $1,225.55: https://ebay.com/itm/-/123526929327/?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true
This is a form of shilling. The seller just cancels the sale if he doesn't get enough $$$ and than relists under his alt account and he doesn't have to pay FVF's.
Yes. That would be illegal. But that isn't what I said. I said breaking it out and selling it
Of all the years we have heard about people like "the dockter" there just never seems like enough is being done to stop them. People like this deserve harsh punishment as a warning for those to come.
@sellitstore said:
The buyer sure looks like a shill account to me.
Feedback of 16, 100% of all bid activity with the same seller.
You are misreading that statistic. That's 1 bid out of a total of 1 bids for 100%. You can't tell about the other 15 bids.
You could be right about my misreading the statistic (we don't know about the other 15) but it still looks like we are dealing with a shill bidder/seller. He's just using multiple IDs. I think that we all agree that what this guy is doing is wrong and dishonest, at the very least.
Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
@AlexinPA said:
'the dockter' and the 'kremlin_collector' I suspect are one and the same. I wouldn't be surprised if this sleaze bag has more names he sells under. Does anyone know if "IT" is selling real coins and not just pictures.?
Likely Zhivago may be one of his alts. Hard to grasp with the two you list people don't get at least a little suspicious and ask around.
@rampop said:
Hello All
First comment here but have followed this seller "thedockter" on Ebay, and see that the practices have not been stopped. Ignoring the backstory, which is understandable as sales ploy however it strains credibility-but regards the higher priced coins, which is really the more egregious practice, cracking them out of problem holders or the shilling of their auctions?
Comments
won't matter on a chargeback. And I doubt he'll run for one coin, he's been around awhile
Hope he steps in front of a truck.
You are misreading that statistic. That's 1 bid out of a total of 1 bids for 100%. You can't tell about the other 15 bids.
So is the POTTERY SHOP 200 years old, or just the CERAMICS?
Haaaa! I saw this guy's B.S. story on eBay a while ago. "Caveat emptor", especially on sites like eBay!
The 1880-CC sold for $225, I am sorry I didn't get to them in time.
Please PM me with any future counterfeits, I don't always check threads regularly, time is of the essence.
http://www.silverstocker.com
Anyone can PM me Any Time about Any thing.
I just tried bidding on an ICG 63 1878 S Morgan, I guess he didn't like me calling him out on the gold flip from HA.
LOL, he just re-listed this coin again. He is determined to get a "sucker" to buy his XF er I mean BU coin:
https://ebay.com/itm/1802-1-Key-Quarter-Eagle-NEAR-UNCIRC-2-50-Dollar-Liberty-Gold-Real-DEAL-BU-MS/293012249249?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20190212102350%26meid%3Dc27aa7831b694e7f9738685143af275a%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D292987087051%26itm%3D293012249249&_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985
How does this guy keep an account with EBay with repetitive feedback this bad?
If anyone here took a flyer on that raw 1849-o Seated Quarter in XF that sold on Sunday for $1775 let us know if it’s a keeper.
Images obviously hiding banged up surfaces, but even in XF details, that’s a tough coin.
Oh c'mon now. It's the "Real Deal". LOL!
Honestly, I would have blocked you also. how would I know you're not going to screw with my auctions? At least one person on this board has done just that: intentionally won auctions he had no intention of paying for.
AMAZING, he just re-re-listed this coin again, with new pictures.....he will not rest until he scams someone........he is relentless:
https://ebay.com/itm/1802-Key-Quarter-Eagle-AU-BU-2-50-Draped-Bust-Liberty-Gold-Nice-NEAR-MS-No-RES/293033352082?hash=item443a261b92:g:xOIAAOSw~dVcpEhH
I got this pop up ad while logged out reading the board on my mobile.
It looks like many of the buyers are "happy". Very weird that ebay buyers are so easily duped.
The ultimate mason jar has been opened...!
I think people are so used to being duped, whether by corporate media, professional wrestling, or, their idealogy, they just take it happily without realization they had been robbed.
So long as we have fast food, a bi-polar corporate media, and face book; it's a free for all with fraud...the seller is just a budding entrepreneur in a stupid, and stupider society. Good for him!
Get your 1796 quarter and Gobretch dollar while you can
I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you defending this persons sales practices? Are you saying he should be left alone and not called out?
Good for the seller for what he’s doing? I hope you were being facetious.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
No. I'm saying that if a would-be buyer is making too much noise, I don't trust them. I've had people eff with my auctions by running them up and not paying intentionally. One person on this board has done it with counterfeit coins. So, from the seller side, I would block someone who is messing with me.
I should add that while sleezy there is nothing illegal about breaking a coin out and selling it raw. So while I'm not exactly defending the sleezeball, I think people should be a little careful about being vigilantes.
Yes, I'm being facetious to a degree Mark. Greed is a double edged sword...the buyer is seeking fortunes, and the seller is looking for susceptible deep pockets. Both parties are preying on each others ignorance. Does greed give favor to the lesser? No. Just a lesson to be learned if warnings, and advice not taken. The propensity of fraud is increasing to the degree of those not making wise decisions. Shiny objects prevail. I agree, not good what seller is doing...but neither is the greed of the buyer. I think these problems attract parties on both spectrum's that cant be solved with our best intentions Mark.
Why do you assume that the buyer is “seeking fortunes”?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
They are lured by the advertising? Whatever shiny is thrown before them.
You might be correct. However, unless you know how he became aware of the listing, how much he plans to bid, what he plans to do with the coin if he wins it and what he’s thinking, you’re making assumptions that might be wrong.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I've run up prices beyond believable on counterfeit coins. Never on a real coin and if I don't know for sure I don't bid.
When required I paid for all of them, usually within 48 hours. I don't pay immediately and allow ebay to do it's thing and nuke the bids/auction. Occasionally I actually got a coin shipped to me and then just returned as SNAD with full refund from Paypal. I had to wait a week or two generally to get my funds back but have never been out of pocket on any fake I've won.
Most sellers realized what was happening and took the coins to a coin shop and had it explained and then just cancelled the sale and my money refunded. That was a good 90% of all sellers. Before paying, a polite note to the seller generally got this result.
bob
Oh, and I'm blocked on many a sellers site.
True. I just believe these sort of outlandish listings attract similar people, who are drawn to this form of advertising, along with the perceived hopes and promises of what they are told....and many are too lazy to go beyond that to learn.
Yes, these are my assumptions. I own them- calloused I suppose.
I think the psychology of getting scammed is well understood. It's a form of "confirmation bias". I'm not surprised at the positive feedback. Even if or when they realize that the 200 year old pottery barn thing is a total hoax, they will still believe they got a sweet deal.
I'm not criticizing you.
But, for example, I had a set of "Million Dollar Morgans" that I was selling. They are CLEARLY marked copy on the back, but a guy ran them up to $400+ with a username "counterfeithunter" and then didn't pay. So, if I feel like someone wants to eff with me, I nuke them. I mean, I'm not intentionally selling counterfeits as real or overgrading coins or telling fake back stories. Just trying to make a buck here or there.
Oh dear, another thread and another No Comment.
.> @PocketArt said:
Thank you for the reply.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
This is on the dockter's EBay ad. The guy is surely looney. LOL
"Should any items be removed, this is not my doing. Ebay allows for a hand picked group of high fee paying sellers to remove coins they feel are competing with their sites. SAY NO TO Their GESTAPO!!"
signd, your friend: "The dockter"
@jmlanzaf
I've never reported coins with COPY on them. Ebay doesn't like them as it's against their rules to sell them but they are legal to sell as they meet the Hobby and Protection Act's requirements.
And, I don't remove any coins at all. Just report them so that ebay can look and make the decision. In the end it's ebay's decision, not ours.
bob
PS: I don't have an ebay alt for reporting...just use my real handle.
What "thedockter" is doing is not just sleezy, it is against eBay rules, thus illegal ie:
This seller, kremlin_collector, just sold an 1849-c $5 Gold Liberty to my friend, on eBay, for $1,225.55:
https://ebay.com/itm/-/123526929327/?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true
My friend paid for the coin and the seller claimed he "lost the coin".......This crook seller just relisted this exact same coin under his alt account, thedockter:
https://ebay.com/itm/-/292910705717/?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true
This is a form of shilling. The seller just cancels the sale if he doesn't get enough $$$ and than relists under his alt account and he doesn't have to pay FVF's.
'the dockter' and the 'kremlin_collector' I suspect are one and the same. I wouldn't be surprised if this sleaze bag has more names he sells under. Does anyone know if "IT" is selling real coins and not just pictures.?
Yes. That would be illegal. But that isn't what I said. I said breaking it out and selling it
Ebay still charges a final value fee to the Seller if the Seller cancels. He must be eating a lot of those.
Of all the years we have heard about people like "the dockter" there just never seems like enough is being done to stop them. People like this deserve harsh punishment as a warning for those to come.
You could be right about my misreading the statistic (we don't know about the other 15) but it still looks like we are dealing with a shill bidder/seller. He's just using multiple IDs. I think that we all agree that what this guy is doing is wrong and dishonest, at the very least.
With a name like "Big Al" what's not to trust?
The "Big" or the "Al" ???
'thedockter' will always be at it. No end. I'm surprised 'thedockter' isn't selling counterfeits.
Likely Zhivago may be one of his alts. Hard to grasp with the two you list people don't get at least a little suspicious and ask around.
Welcome @rampop to the forums.
Shilling is wrong and possibly illegal in some places (check local laws).
Taking a coin out of a plastic rectangle is neither.
2c
I have seen most of his Barber Half's sold and relisted 3 or 4 times now.