Interesting 'Pine Tree Shilling'

cmerlo1

I picked this up at the B&M yesterday. Very nice 'facsimilie' of a Pine Tree shilling, made my International Sterling. I looked online and could find very little about these- does anyone know when they were made?

Broadstruck

Circa 1940's and I've never seen one worn that smooth as most seen are AU-UNC.

They all have applied patina for a aged look.

CaptHenway

See if it is in a pamphlet called "Struck Copies of Early American Coins" (or something like that) by Richard Kenney.

cmerlo1

Thanks, @Broadstruck and @CaptHenway. I really like the circulated look this one has. I did see a reference to Kenney in the research I did on the internet, but there isn't much info available.

ricko

By the way... No C in shilling.... Cheers, RickO

cmerlo1

@ricko said:
By the way... No C in shilling.... Cheers, RickO

Thanks Ricko! Corrected.

CaptHenway

Kenney, not Kenner.

The piece I remember seeing pictured was also circulated, but not as much as this one. They may have been popular as pocket pieces.

Zoins

That looks like it could be a die trial / die adjustment strike with light pressure. I have a die trial struck by Dan Carr that has a similar look with a lightly struck center area.

It’s amazing how little information we have on some of these tokens. Seems like a potential area for research.

cmerlo1

@CaptHenway said:
Kenney, not Kenner.

Sheesh- too many typos. Corrected- thank you for pointing it out.

StrikeOutXXX

Token Catalog has it listed here:
http://tokencatalog.com/token_record_forms.php?action=DisplayTokenRecord&td_id=132754&inventory_id=70578&attribution_id=134158&td_create_uid=334

I saw one eBay sale where they claimed it was a "300-Year" reproduction made in 1952, but found one auction catalog from October 16, 1937 where there was one for sale as lot 610, so they've been around for awhile.

https://archive.org/details/thirtyfifthcatal00blue/page/22

And June 26th 1931 Lot 225

https://archive.org/details/sixtyeighthpubli00bole/page/14

And in a June 4th 1930 auction too - Lot 1025

https://archive.org/details/fiftyninthpublic00bole/page/32

Dec 13/14 1929 Lot 572

https://archive.org/details/publicsalerareco00elde/page/28

And as mentioned, it's in the Kenney reference of 1952
https://archive.org/details/coincollectorsjo19n1coin/page/16

And in Noe's Pine Tree Coinage of Massachusetts book of 1952
https://archive.org/details/ThePineTreeCoinageOfMassachusetts/page/n61

cmerlo1

Thank you @StrikeOutXXX !!! I love the forums!

johnny9434

that's cool looking

CaptHenway

Thanks, Strikeout!

Probably the 300th anniversary of the landing of the Pilgrims in 1620, or 1920. By 1929 it might have become collectible.