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Have my BU 1909 V.D.B DDO's been cleaned?

cherrypickerrrrrcherrypickerrrrr Posts: 88 ✭✭
edited January 30, 2019 10:26AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I don't think either of them have, but just wanted to double check with you guys....

(2 different coins) (obverse and reverse pic of each)




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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,945 ✭✭✭✭✭

    YES. Cleaned and polished.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2019 10:28AM

    Not to my eyes by the images you posted. Take another image with Lincolns head at 3 o'clock. Additionally, take an image of the coin tilted up at one end. You can put a toothpick under one edge.

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    lusterloverlusterlover Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell because the color & lighting are off. If that's the true color, then I would say yes - cleaned and retoned.

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    fcfc Posts: 12,789 ✭✭✭

    You need to get the color and lighting right in order to get a reasonable opinion. Play with the settings in your camera and find a daylight bulb.

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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    not, based on your pics.

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    AercusAercus Posts: 381 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2019 11:26AM

    Hard to say for certain. Try using two spot lamps and aiming them from opposite sides onto the coin. It will help us get a better sense of the luster. Also, shoot the coin from straight on, not at an angle.
    If you have image editing software, try adjusting the white balance of the photo to match in hand appearance. We will be able to help you more :)

    PS: poster above recommended daylight bulbs (6500K temperature). Not required but certainly nice if you plan to take more photos.

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is the background pure white? If not, retake with white or 18% gray background. Color balance for the background; do not change this when you photograph the coin.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    cool to see the ddo's. wtg

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Get better pictures

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    EdtheloraxEdthelorax Posts: 229 ✭✭✭

    The 2nd one is cleaned in my opinion, at least dipped. I bought it and returned it on ebay from K...D...C....
    I recognized the seller photos. I assumed the first one was also.
    Still a nice coin for the price, there was just not enough margin left in it for my needs .

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it to me.

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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first impression is that the second one is more suspect than the first. Something about the reverse pic looks "off" to me.

    But I'll agree that the pictures could be hiding a lot....or creating a lot.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2019 8:46PM

    They look cleaned to me. Here is one that has NOT been cleaned.


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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    They look cleaned to me. Here is one that has been cleaned.

    Bill, I think you omitted the word "not". That looks original to me, with great luster too.

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    @Edthelorax said:
    The 2nd one is cleaned in my opinion, at least dipped. I bought it and returned it on ebay from K...D...C....
    I recognized the seller photos. I assumed the first one was also.
    Still a nice coin for the price, there was just not enough margin left in it for my needs .

    You're very good, observant, and exactly right haha.

    Looking at all his BU wheat cents listed/sold, they all look very similar to this. So I'm thinking all his pics just look exactly the same for some reason, or the hundreds of his BU coppers are all cleaned and retoned/polished the same exact way.....which is highly unlikely...especially with his feedback.

    Maybe they're not cleaned, and will grade very high? ;) And hopefully not grade UNC. DDO FS-1101 Questionable Color!

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    markelman1125markelman1125 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I never Knew there are 1909 DDO. It is cool👍

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be the photos but I don't think either of the OP coins are original. The high points are too reflective and the color is too flat. I'm no expert though.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yes cleaned & yes cleaned

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    BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2019 3:26PM

    Yes, scrub a dub dub
    ( looks like a brillo pad job ....
    ..... or maybe a little brasso was used )
    unfortunately.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IMO, the coins may be cleaned but they have NOT been scrubbed! No Brillo was used either. I get really tired when folks who should know better post that a coin with a few parallel hairlines is "harshly cleaned!" Not you of course. <3

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They may have been dipped.... would like to see them in natural light....the glare/reflection may be hiding things. Cheers, RickO

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They both look cleaned to me.

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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep, I am in the heavily cleaned camp. Too bad since they are DDO's

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,945 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its hard to imagine that many dings and that clean in the same sentence, cleaned.

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    thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm in the cleaned camp.
    Better photos would help though.......

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Something about the "flatness" make me think altered surfaces/ questionable color, but it may just be the lighting.

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    1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A shine with no luster, I would say cleaned/polished.

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭✭✭

    cleaned

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