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What do you think about this 1807 Bust Half Dollar?

RomankowRomankow Posts: 104 ✭✭✭
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Hi everyone,

  1. Do you think this is genuine?
  2. If so, what Overton variety would you attribute to it?

Thanks for your thoughts.
--David

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    OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can't comment on your specific questions, but assuming the color in the pics is correct, it looks like there might be some green PVC plasticizer residue on the coin. This stuff is acidic and will eventually ruin the coin. An acetone soak could help if it's from a PVC flip

    Member of the ANA since 1982
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will weigh in and say that I think that coin is genuine. This date, as well as many 1806 Draped Bust haves, comes with weak centers and hair detail.

    As for the Overton variety, I will leave that to the early half dollar experts. To be honest, the layout of the Overton book gives me a headache. I will say that for the three editions of it that I have owned.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has a nice look.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Photos seem a little blurry, but nothing screams fake.

    This date, as well as many 1806 Draped Bust haves, comes with weak centers and hair detail.
    I have an 1807 with fairly sharp stars, sharp bust drapery detail, and traces of mint luster around the periphery, but the central detail is no more than VG.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin looks genuine to me.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭✭✭

    genuine...O-105

    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
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    StellaStella Posts: 689 ✭✭✭✭

    Looks genuine to me. As for the Overton number, I will leave that to someone who has the reference handy.

    Coin collector since childhood and New York Numismatist at Heritage Auctions.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks authentic and commerce worn (with the weak center as noted above)...Nice old coin. Cheers, RickO

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    NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Romankow :

    what Overton variety would you attribute to it?

    The die marriage is 1807 T-4, the most common for the Draped Bust in 1807.

    Al Overton attempted to number half dollars by emission order and was wrong in most cases, because the methods of determining emission order (sequence of striking) had not been fully developed.

    Steve Tompkins corrected the emission order for the 1794-1807 half dollars (with help from others) and developed a new numbering system.

    The Overton numbers for 1794-1807 are incorrect and obsolete. Buy the book Early United States Half Dollars: Volume i 1794-1807, and use the correct Tompkins numbers.

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yup, nice, genuine, but get rid of that PVC

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    To be honest, the layout of the Overton book gives me a headache. I will say that for the three editions of it that I have owned.

    SAME HERE!

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