Are there any great error collectors and pedigrees?
Zoins
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For regular US coins, there are many well known collectors in the "collectors hall of fame". Are there such collectors who focus on errors? Are there error pedigrees that appear on slabs? There are lots of errors out there and many go for big premiums but I haven't heard of any.
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I have seen a few error coins pedigreed as "The New England Collection" if I remember correctly.
I do not like pedigree on error coins.
Many of the major error coins that I have, have multiple errors on one coin and I need all the room on the label that I can get for the most information possible. So many error labels lack a true full description.
I'm thinking if there were some more famous pedigrees, there could be more interest in error coins because people would be building up reputations along with their collections. It's curious pedigrees aren't more popular with error collectors.
Mick Arconti put together a phenomenal set of Large Cents that was sold in 2003.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
There are lots of errors in coin records of possession. Almost every auction catalog has a bunch.
("Pedigree" refers to origin or ancestry, not to ownership or possession. A coin "pedigree" would refer to the place/date circumstances of the coin's manufacture, not to who might have owned it.)
You may be strictly right, but I’ve learned it’s hard to change the coin hobby. I tried to get the New Haven Restrike Fugios to be called the Scovill Manufacturing Replica Fugios in the past but was unsuccessful.
There are Bill Fivaz errors and varieties out there to be had.
Some of Harrison Phillips’ errors were slabbed with provenance.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Russ Logan had hundreds of errors in his auction, he collected errors by die marriage. All coins were raw. Here is an edge error from the Logan sale, 1831 (glad it is not in a slab):
Good one. @Byers handled this one a while back. This is interesting in that there's no date or stars yet.
https://mikebyers.com/60107310.html
The Northern Nevada broken Dollar comes to mind.
Northern Nevada actually has a fairly impressive error collection in addition to the Broken CC piece. Would be great to see all of them with TrueViews.
https://www.brokencc.com/modules.php?title=coin-error-gallery-photos&mod=Gallery
Of note, they have some with the Harrison Phillips pedigree but don't seem to have any with their own.
Zoins - Yep. I understand; but one must try.
On the subject of error collections, I've seen members mention collections of "ballistic rolls" and gold washed state quarters -- seems to me these are entirely "errors in collecting" if not "collecting errors."
I believe forum member Fred Weinberg is the go to error guy for at least one major TPG. Surely he has a nice error collection.
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I own some of the slab pedigree Harrison Phillips collection errors.
The catalog below is by error dealer Natalie Halpern who handled the Milt Cohen collection type set.
https://minterrornews.com/features-11-14-06-milt_cohen_collection.html
Fred Weinberg as I recall handled the Conway Bolt collection of errors in the 1970's.
Here's the Standing Liberty Quarter Errors from the Harrison Phillips & Conway Bolt Collections.
1929-S 25C SLQ Broadstruck Out Of Collar PCGS MS64
1929-S 25C SLQ Off Center PCGS MS63
What if I pedigree my coins that I bought from Jon who bought from Fred?
Fred/Jon/Me Collection
LOL
Your errors might sell for less if you added your name to the Provenance chain?
Conway Bolt Collection from 1974 pops into my mind.
(those 1929-S B/S Quarters come from that collection)
There are numerous 'big' error collections known by
their owners' names; not on any labels, however.
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
Key Koins (a Western New York dealer) has compiled a significant U.S. error collection.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.americanlegacycoins.com
Thanks FredWeinberg!
That's right... Conway Bolt just slipped my mind
I bought errors from Tom at Key, but are they still in business as the website defunct about 8 years ago?
Tom still operates at local shows in Buffalo and Rochester. I'm proud to say that one of the premier pieces in his collection was previously handled by me - a double struck 1795 2 Leaves Flowing Hair Dollar.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.americanlegacycoins.com
Fred-
NGC is putting my name (BYERS COLLECTION) on some of the inserts, of some of my mint errors. Some I sold, some I still own.
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Wait those are just your dealer inventory... Now I know that every dealers inventory is basically their collection until items sell, but if every dealer starts adding label pedigrees what a mess that would be.