re-engraved Stars??
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Do these stars look re-engraved to you sure looks like it to me..
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Do you mean that someone purposely strengthened the stars on this coin?
They look re-engraved to me
YES. DAMAGE....
graded and cac'd ?!?!?!?!?!?!
strangely shaped.
Yes, something happened
BHNC #203
Stars 10 & 11 do look funky, but the fact that most of the stars were not so affected make me wonder if PERHAPS this might be legitimate damage of some sort.
I have not seen the coin in hand. Better people than I have.
Some weird looking star points and sides. Worn die? I can't see any engraving marks leading up to the edges though. IMO. Peace Roy
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There is wear and some PMD.... but they do not look re-engraved to me... also, as @CaptHenway said, they would likely have done them all... Cheers, RickO
If you are interested in seeing one with guaranteed re-engraved stars, here's a good candidate:
This coin, in a straight-graded holder, is for sale through HA at FUN.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/705590/did-hl-strike-again-on-this-1796-50-pcgs-problem-free-f15-warning-big-pic/p1
This coin should be pulled!
Maybe you could ping Heritage on it. I wrote to them and got no response.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/half-dollars/1805-4-50c-o-103b-t-11-r6-fine-12-pcgs-pcgs-population-0-1-ngc-census-0-1-fine-12/a/1291-7918.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
Exact same coin sold for $2,880 in April...https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/half-dollars/1805-4-50c-fine-12-pcgs-pcgs-population-13-170-ngc-census-4-63-cdn-900-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc-pcgs-fine/a/1274-7551.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
The 1805/4 star lines look raised to me. If so, they were touched up on the die? Anyone else see them this way?
I am confused on the terminology and may have it wrong.
When I hear re-engraved, I am thinking the mint added some stuff to the die to change all future coins from that die.
When I hear tooled, I am thinking someone changed the coin to make it look better.
What are you thinking is happening with this coin?
I think that someone monkeyed with the centers of at least some of the stars on both the 1818 quarter and the 1805/4 half dollar. It is not the first time I have seen this.
Some stars do get double punched at times on some die varieties. From ownership, I know that all of the stars on the 1797, 16 star obverse dime have little stars under them that the engraver scratched in before he used the star punch to make the die. He goal seemed to be to make the marks so that he could space the 16 stars on the design properly. Some stars on Bust Half Dollars to get stretched out, at their outer points from die fatigue.
The trouble with these coins was that it was done after the fact, and probably after these coins had been saved and put into collections. As such it's post mint damage.
My original comment of being re-engraved was by someone outside the mint trying to enhance the coin....
I have looked at a number of other 1818 quarters and a number of them look the same as this one...
Don't know what to think about that as I am not a quarter guy...