High end or condition collectors, is the Hansen quest changing your habits?
topstuf
Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
Just wondering if the Hansen spectacular is changing any of your acquisitions?
Anonymous poll so let us know if you want to. 
High end or condition collectors, is the Hansen quest changing your habits?
This is a private poll: no-one will see what you voted for.
0
Comments
Hansen is in his world, and I am in mine. I have a couple finest know coins, but most of what I am buying is in the second tier. I will say that I was happy to get one of Hanson’s rejects, an 1838 Quarter Eagle, that had his name on the holder. I not too proud to grab some crumbs from under Hanson’s table.
BTW, for those who think my Classic Head Quarter Eagle collection does not amount to much, it is the number 2 set on the PCGS Registry behind Hansen.
I buy what I can afford that I like.
I’m not competing with anyone but myself.
The Mercury dime group has changed, but a few are still around thank God!
Some of the fun has been lost, but not all,
Ken keep up the great work!
I like collecting things that I can collect at the highest level, that make sense to me at the current market levels, and which represent more of a challenge in finding the coins than in paying for them. So to be honest, pretty much anything that Hansen collects was not of interest to me AS A COLLECTOR even before Hansen entered the game. (As a dealer, it's a very different story.) But I'm not responding to the thread to say "I don't care about Hansen". I'm responding because I think that if you're really serious about your collection, it's important to collect things where YOU can be the whale, and where you don't have to compete MOST OF THE TIME with people who have you completely outgunned. It's a better strategy because it's more fun, it's more satisfying, and it wil probably be more profitable in the long run.
FWIW, I walked away from one of my favorite collections because I realized that I could not compete. It was a little painful, but I have no regrets about it.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
I don’t need to be “the whale” in ares where I collect. I just want to be happy with what I have. I let my purchasing power dictate that I could only collect the best when I could afford it, I would be bored silly.
If I could be the dealer who was building Hansen’s collection, that would be fun.
To each his own. Personally, I enjoy hunting for great stuff that I "need". And when I find something I need, I hate knowing that I have no chance to buy it. That's why I don't collect Early US Gold, for example. Forget about being the whale. I just cant compete on the coins I would want to buy. And I'm never bored. I just know that I can't collect everything.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Not at all - unless Hansen goes after chopmarked trade dollars.
Minor Variety Trade dollar's with chop marks set:
More Than It's Chopped Up To Be
While I totally appreciate and respect what Hansen is accomplishing, it no way affects my collecting. I can go after what I want without worrying about a billionaire competing with me. Colonial era coins for the most part are nonexistent in high end Uncirculated or better. I doubt that he would be interested in a VF or XF state copper.
My customers are going all out to remain on top w/#1 sets. I will be announcing a new one soon-and its all cac!
He really does not interfere with what we do.
I like what everyone above has written. Like all of you I am just doing my own thing. On the variety sets, he has actully bought some of my crumbs. So I have plenty of room to upgrade when I cherry pick varities, while he has to always pay full retail.
WS
I collect in an area where I can find very high quality and eye appealing coinage "in the wild" (aka raw) and look for high quality coins that I can purchase for modest money.
If I ever get to the point where I have more disposable income [living in the Bay Area and raising two children through college is very expensive] I will likely branch out and play a little bit in a deeper end of the hobby pool.
At least he's not an "Everyman" Collector!
Recently sold my #1 1937 Mint set after Mr. Hansen entered the fray. Is it possible he actually drives collectors away from the Registry, as in not able to compete so why bother?
That’s a league I don’t play in. Mine’s not bad at all. I’ll wait for my first bullion to jump in there.
He recently bought a coin I had passed on. Probably a fluke but it did get my attention. Good thing I'm not 'serious' enough to be bidding in auctions.
I want to see the Eliasberg lowball set - nothing above G4.
I just collect things that I like within my budget !!!
I'm not a collector anymore... or less.
No. Why would you let someone else or his taste dictate how you enjoy your hobby?
I do focus on only MS pieces but my niche will never be the highest graded coins for the issue and series.
Rather, I look for the most bang for my buck....finding coins that are undergraded and in the highest percentage of their grades, which are usually choice or near gem for the keys, and higher for the rest (more moderately rare to common issues).
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
in a much smaller scope this is my take
🌺 Happy & Content with and in your own mean to collect is an important part of keeping any hobby FUN.
🐠 I am a tiny fish in the big pond doing my tiny happy collecting without any influence nor envy of others.
I don't participate in the PCGS registry (because I know that great coins are found in all holders) so while moderately good drama it has zero effect on me.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
I agree. The registries are just a tool to herd you into specific plastic.
I have not heard of this "Hansen" person. I don't buy on other peoples collecting/hoard habits. I am totally at fault for my agglomeration/collection.
BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore, Nickpatton, Namvet69,...
high end is nice but if i see something i like better then i go for it (ex: a xf 45 coin)
There's only one thing I'm wondering about at this point...... how soon will we be seeing this Collection for Sale?
One decade? Two?
My best guess is 2 years from January. FUN 2021 would be super FUN. 👑
Not implying anything about Hansen but...
A lot of whales are actually collecting beyond their means, which is why they sell, after completion, right away, because they need their money back.
Why do that? Just to say you did it? Seems crazy to me...
I would rather collect to hold and enjoy what I love, which will also maximize my returns down the road. JMHO.
Buy the best you can afford (QDB calls it finding the optimal collecting grade or level).
Also, as sages have said for ages--buy the coin and not the holder.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
I do like the registry idea and do participate in the registry ATS. Primarily because ATS used to include both companies in the registry, now that that side of the street is also exclusive my desire to do any further sets has been curbed. Also the registry is a great backup for my collection inventory.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
I feel the same way. My Walker sets would almost all be done, if not for what they did ATS. I find myself less interested in the registry and NGC coins, in general, now, although I'll still buy them, if they're REALLY good or if the slab is rare. Now, I just want full certified sets.
The registry is/was a great place to showcase your collection and share knowledge. Just having a complete higher ranking set was fine with me. I NEVER tried to be number one.
As far as crossing and cracking; I'm not into that game and don't plan on it any time soon.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Hope he doesn’t do Latin America
Latin American Collection
I agree with this exactly. I was very disappointed with NGC’s decision as I enjoy collecting coins in both holders but I have a compulsion to try to complete the sets in which I participate. I would guess before the decision my set was 60/40 in favor of PCGS but after they stopped allowing PC coins that split is probably 85/15 or even 90/10 heavily favoring our host. In addition, I have thought about doing PCGS-only registries for my toned collection since I don’t mind (and often have) duplicates and want to keep both.
I am doing PCGS only for two new, non-Walker, one-per-date sets that I have recently started.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
That's why I phrased it as I did. When ATS took ....all....slabs...fine. Now they're just as useless for complete runs.
I still think that nothing is better than Collective Coin for keeping track of your stuff.
https://collectivecoin.com/
Although it's being ruined by jerks with multithousand dollar "for sales" on raw canadian pennies from circulation and stuff.
But for inventory and pix, it works very well.
Over the years I have owned a little bit of this and a little bit of that . All high end .
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
This shows how the decision ATS really blew up in their faces. After they barred the PCGS coins, I pretty much switched to PCGS exclusively. When I was finishing my Classic Head Quarter Eagle set, I went for PCGS coins exclusively. At least in my case, ATS decreased my demand for their products
Collectors who are focused and willing to pay a premium should be able to compete well with Hansen as he doesn't follow the overpay philosophy. Here's a quote on a coin he lost:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/11943400/#Comment_11943400
I meant that I can't collect everything all at once. First, because I can't afford to do it. Second, as Steven Wright says, "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?"
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Anybody have a Hansen...Like this one? (for sale now)
If it was a MS64, I'd seriously think about it.
My Saint Set