Rich’s fabulous colorful Proof Indian Cents

Coming up in the Heritage Fun sale
Quite a selection of psychedelically colored Indian Cents
A first for Heritage ?

Comments

  • RittenhouseRittenhouse Posts: 561 ✭✭✭

    What ever you think of them, they sure are wild looking.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow. Me like!

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow.

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know rich he is a super nice guy !

    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 6,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WOW! 😙

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 11,025 ✭✭✭✭
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,384 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amazing colors!


    Later, Paul.
  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't bogart that joint. Roll another one just like the other one.

  • jabbajabba Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He should make bank on those

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think those are gorgeous! Rick, thanks for posting the images! Perhaps I have found my next set to collect!

  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    very, very, sad that they'll all be out of my price range.

    :( :s :'(

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't see many CAC pieces.....yes, the coins are pretty

  • RealoneRealone Posts: 17,861 ✭✭✭✭

    I N C R E D I B L E!!!!!!!!

    'Never give in, never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy'.
    FYI: I only collect naturally toned coins with original surfaces and nothing else, trust me nothing else!
    OK with one exception!
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 18,844 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lots of....blue

  • TiborTibor Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would break my heart to let go any of those beauties.
    Thanks for the posting the images Rick.

  • rickoricko Posts: 67,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EagleEye ... Thanks for showing us those coins....I would say your collection would pair well with @AuroraBorealis collection of Morgans.... I know he visited you recently, did he view these coins?? Must have been tempting for Wayne.... :D Cheers, RickO

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 11,025 ✭✭✭✭

    @specialist said:
    I can't see many CAC pieces.....yes, the coins are pretty

    Does blue automatically mean they were MS70'd? I recall there being blue proof Indians way before the "MS70" saga. Perhaps they are all "guilty by association" now?

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @EagleEye ... Thanks for showing us those coins....I would say your collection would pair well with @AuroraBorealis collection of Morgans.... I know he visited you recently, did he view these coins?? Must have been tempting for Wayne.... :D Cheers, RickO

    Or @WingedLiberty1957 toned Lincolns.

    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2018 11:27AM

    @Connecticoin said:

    @specialist said:
    I can't see many CAC pieces.....yes, the coins are pretty

    Does blue automatically mean they were MS70'd? I recall there being blue proof Indians way before the "MS70" saga. Perhaps they are all "guilty by association" now?

    This thread may prove illuminating:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/977997/the-sun-and-the-blue-toned-rooster/p1

    Edited to add: Or not! :D

    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 11,025 ✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:

    @Connecticoin said:

    @specialist said:
    I can't see many CAC pieces.....yes, the coins are pretty

    Does blue automatically mean they were MS70'd? I recall there being blue proof Indians way before the "MS70" saga. Perhaps they are all "guilty by association" now?

    This thread may prove illuminating:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/977997/the-sun-and-the-blue-toned-rooster/p1

    Edited to add: Or not! :D

    Thanks, I do recall that thread, but it got much larger since I last looked at it.

    So now my question is, will PCGS grade and/or will CAC approve ANY blue Indian Cent now? Is it just the so-called "neon" ones that get no-graded, or not approved?

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would assume heritage would send the set to CAC or the coins would have gone. In this market its a must to max out your money

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 747 ✭✭✭✭

    In this market I think it’s a mistake to send an entire collection to CAC before selling. Just include some PQ pieces to make it obvious that nothing has been sent, and maybe even state it as fact. Then let the market “guess”. Otherwise half the collection will languish.

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 18,844 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @scubafuel said:
    In this market I think it’s a mistake to send an entire collection to CAC before selling. Just include some PQ pieces to make it obvious that nothing has been sent, and maybe even state it as fact. Then let the market “guess”. Otherwise half the collection will languish.

    Sure. If you’re a price buyer

    If you’ve bought the goods then flaunt it

  • RedglobeRedglobe Posts: 372 ✭✭✭

    I would like to know the opinion of the writer in the "Hot Topics" article posted by Tradedollarnut on those coins are

    Rob
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Electric blue and purple scare me on copper... Someone was a little heavy handed with MS70 don't you think?

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2018 6:57PM

    @scubafuel said:
    In this market I think it’s a mistake to send an entire collection to CAC before selling. Just include some PQ pieces to make it obvious that nothing has been sent, and maybe even state it as fact. Then let the market “guess”. Otherwise half the collection will languish.

    Would you prefer (as a consigner) that bidders assume that all of the pieces were CAC rejects? Rightly or wrongly, many assume that any coin above a certain dollar threshold has been to CAC.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @specialist said:
    I would assume heritage would send the set to CAC or the coins would have gone. In this market its a must to max out your money

    Especially with those colors... If one of them did bean, there are many of buyers more than willing to throw fistfuls of cash at it.

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, not every coin goes to CAC. We were told by two collectors there is a dealer out there who tells them he does not trust CAC. Why they went along with that I will never know.

    I just be when in doubt use CAC as insurance.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @specialist said:
    I can't see many CAC pieces.....yes, the coins are pretty

    Was this the series and/or set alluded to in your most recent Hot Topics blog post?

  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here we go.......................

    again.

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Given past experience/discussion on toned proof IHCs....I think there are quite a few proof IHCs that wouldn't get a CAC sticker. Doesn't mean the toning isn't NT. Doesn't mean the grade isn't correct (or better). Just means it wouldn't get a sticker.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 747 ✭✭✭✭

    "If you’ve bought the goods then flaunt it"

    -This is pertaining to complete sets like the above, and not individual coins:
    If you have "the goods" (most or all coins would CAC) it will be obvious in an auction to the people who matter, regardless of slabs, stickers, or anything else.
    If you do not have "the goods", better to hope the coins speak to potential buyers and let them see quality where they will.

    "A strange game. The only correct move is not to play"

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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Being that JA doesn't bid on Proof Indian cents (and neither do I), a CAC (and photo seal) is really meaningless, except for academic reasons. I mean the reason to have CAC sticker is so JA will buy it at his bid, right? These toned pieces sell for so much over the "bid" price, that the bid price is not even worth considering.

    The reason I don't bid on Proof Indians is the opposite reason against these. I hate spots and there are many proofs with spots. The reported greysheet bids are basically for spotted coins.

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rick, I agree with you on the spots.
    A few of mine have some minor spotting, but I really try to minimize/avoid the spots on proof IHCs.

    Prices really skyrocket when getting to the PR66 level, which is where there should be no spotting (imho).
    Finding PR63/64 or even 65, without spotting, can be more challenging (65 is a bit easier, in my limited experience).

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 5,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most amazing coins and SO pretty!

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not rue at all about CAC. They DO sticker toned Indians if the toning is genuine. JA does not have to make bids, nor does that mean he wouldn't buy the coins. He knows these coins sell too strong vs any possible bids anyway.

    I still say, when it comes to funky toned copper coins (ANY) be safe, buy on cac.

  • shishshish Posts: 663 ✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2018 4:23PM

    "I mean the reason to have CAC sticker is so JA will buy it at his bid, right?" As a collector my answer to Rick's question is "Wrong" . There are many reasons that I like to own CAC approved Liberty Seated Dollars & Trade dollars, selling to JA is not one of the reasons.

    Liberty Seated and Trade Dollar Specialist
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 28,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice but I prefer Blue Indians to be Smurfs ;)

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EagleEye said:
    Being that JA doesn't bid on Proof Indian cents

    Are you sure about this?

  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @EagleEye ... Thanks for showing us those coins....I would say your collection would pair well with @AuroraBorealis collection of Morgans.... I know he visited you recently, did he view these coins?? Must have been tempting for Wayne.... :D Cheers, RickO

    not Rick Snow's coins, but the collection belongs to Rich Uhrich.

  • rickoricko Posts: 67,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barndog.... Thanks, I missed that.... Cheers, RickO

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