I got smoked on my bid for an NGC 2.1 Old Holder, $2.5 gold.

Wabbit2313

I snipped at $1650, more than double full PCGS retail. DENIED! I even tried to buy it early to no avail. Buyer paid full MS-64 auction value.

I did have a chance to educate the seller about what these are though. (Last week) He asked, "why have I gotten so many emails and calls about this coin"? I told him why. I then offered my $1650, but he said he would let it run it's course. As a collector of these, and in this market, this price was shocking, even to me.

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Zoins

These are awesome holders, one of my favorites.

Wabbit2313

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Walkerfan

It's nice and all but I never would have wanted it for that kind of money, especially since it's a 62. I usually don't buy MS coins that are graded below 63. Maybe because it's gold it has garnered more attention? Don't feel bad....Live to bid another day. JMHO.

Zoins

@Walkerfan said:
It's nice and all but I never would have wanted it for that kind of money, especially since it's a 62. I usually don't buy MS coins that are graded below 63. Maybe because it's gold it has garnered more attention? Don't feel bad....Live to bid another day. JMHO.

Here, part of the price is for the holder.

BillJones

The thing about the Liberty $2.50 gold coins is that they can look really nice from this distince, but when you put a 10X on them, you see more about why the grade was assigned. Here is an example.

This is graded MS-63. It looks like it's a point better.

And here tt is from a different perspective.

If you saw that 1856 $2.50 in person, and know that it was really undergraded, I would not get too upset about not winning it.

Smudge

Where's the crust? For that $ I want some crust or at least a nice deep toning.

Walkerfan

@Zoins said:

@Walkerfan said:
It's nice and all but I never would have wanted it for that kind of money, especially since it's a 62. I usually don't buy MS coins that are graded below 63. Maybe because it's gold it has garnered more attention? Don't feel bad....Live to bid another day. JMHO.

Here, part of the price is for the holder.

Of course, I know that. But all things considered; I still don’t think it was a good deal.

scubafuel

That one will look nice with a gold sticker stuck to it!

WildIdea

I wouldn’t rely on a price guide to pin an auction price at any certain level. Public sale, nice coin, scarce holder and lots of money floating around. This makes for an almost certainty that there is someone out in the world with way more appetite than me to pay more than I’m comfortable with.

asheland

I would love a gold piece in one of those white holders!

PerryHall

What will this coin be worth after it gets a gold CAC sticker?

coinkid855

That looks like a 2.0, not a 2.1.

SeattleSlammer

That’s a lot ... but it is a cool slab and may be gold bean bound. And perhaps it’s a collector who just wants to hold it for years and take it out for show and tell at family gatherings.

Wabbit2313

@coinkid855 said:
That looks like a 2.0, not a 2.1.

I don't see a shadow.

Paradisefound

The hammer you usually see on Heritage Auction ...... good you didn't pursue it at that price. Thank you for sharing

coinkid855

@Wabbit2313 said:

@coinkid855 said:
That looks like a 2.0, not a 2.1.

I don't see a shadow.

Trust me, it's a 2.0.

oih82w8

I can't tell you how many of these type holders I sent in for crossover consideration to our host.
She is a beauty!

coinkid855

Wabbit2313

I'll trust you now since I didn't win!

I still don't see the shadow and the coin shop person said the gold was inside not out. If he was wrong, I am REALLY happy I didn't win!

Wabbit2313

@PerryHall said:
What will this coin be worth after it gets a gold CAC sticker?

Not as much as he paid! And if it is not in fact a 2.1, forget about it.

Kkathyl

Was that a slanted 5 too. Sorry you cant win them all.

astrorat

@coinkid855 said:

@Wabbit2313 said:

@coinkid855 said:
That looks like a 2.0, not a 2.1.

I don't see a shadow.

Trust me, it's a 2.0.

Yes ... it is a 2.0. No chance it's a 2.1. It's too large and there is a shadow. Still a nice coin in a collectible holder.

Peace_dollar88

nice coin. the market for 2.1 and 2.0s are ever increasing. They keep going up. that's a 2.0 for sure. I have 2.0s with lower submission numbers than that one.

BillJones

The old gold inlay logo NGC holders are like the PCGS Old Green Label holders. A fair number of them are conservatively graded, some of them just make the grade and a few got a push to make the grade.

This 1878 7 over 8 tail feather dollar is an example. It was in an old gold inlay NGC holder as an MS-63. The big gouge to the left of Ms. Liberty’s eyebrow could put that grade in jeopardy. You can't assume that something is a good deal just because it is in an old generation holder.

asheland

I have a gold foil reverse slab, but it's on the outside and the label isn't white. Some transition slab I suppose...

asheland

coinkid855

@asheland said:
I have a gold foil reverse slab, but it's on the outside and the label isn't white. Some transition slab I suppose...

That's just a normal 3.0 slab. If it had the stamp on the INSIDE, that would make it a transitional error.

asheland

@coinkid855 said:

@asheland said:
I have a gold foil reverse slab, but it's on the outside and the label isn't white. Some transition slab I suppose...

That's just a normal 3.0 slab. If it had the stamp on the INSIDE, that would make it a transitional error.

Thank you!

astrorat

@asheland said:
I have a gold foil reverse slab, but it's on the outside and the label isn't white. Some transition slab I suppose...

Dang ... you had me really excited there for a moment! I thought it was a new transition variety! LOL

Kccoin

Nice looking $2.5 . Hope the winner keeps holder intact

Timbuk3

I like it, I hope the new owner sends it in to CAC !!!

ricko

Looks like a heck of a premium for a slab... I know old generation slabs are collectible, however, that looks like they could be buried, unless it gets a gold CAC sticker. Cheers, RickO

jwitten

I was a bidder on this one, but it went WAY above what I wanted to pay.

Cougar1978

Many have upgrade potential.

Paradisefound

Holly smokes

oldrattler

Looks like it's back up for auction again. Ebay auction # 253954830409 ending tonight.
Let's see what it goes for this time?

KollectorKing

@oldrattler said:
Looks like it's back up for auction again. Ebay auction # 253954830409 ending tonight.
Let's see what it goes for this time?

Is my slab the same as the above one?

Kyle

Nope @KollectorKing - Your coin is in an NGC 3.0 holder, whereas the one in the eBay listing is an NGC 2.1.

The NGC 3.0 has the NGC logo and border on the insert.

KollectorKing

@Kyle said:
Nope @KollectorKing - Your coin is in an NGC 3.0 holder, whereas the one in the eBay listing is an NGC 2.1.

The NGC 3.0 has the NGC logo and border on the insert.

Thanks!

CuKevin

@Kyle said:
Nope @KollectorKing - Your coin is in an NGC 3.0 holder, whereas the one in the eBay listing is an NGC 2.1.

The NGC 3.0 has the NGC logo and border on the insert.

I am not certain, but I agree with the crowd that believe it to be a 2.0.

Wabbit2313

If it was returned, which it looks like it was, it should hurt the next sale since the upgrade folks don't trust it now. I sure don't as the guy who thought it was worth $2200 sent it back.

jtlee321

I think you got lucky the first time around. The reason it was returned (most likely) is that it is a 2.0 and not a 2.1. I can see the shadow. I've taken a screen capture of the large image above and enhanced the contrast. You can see show elements on both the right and left sides of the gold foil.

Smudge

Same coin, same seller now at about $950.

Peace_dollar88

Wow still ended strong!

jwitten

I got outbid.... AGAIN, lol

JasonGaming

How much did it end at? @jwitten