@mvs7 said:
Wow. Well I, for one, am looking forward to the first posts from Jwitten2 and Insider 3.
If they are allowed back, they could get their original users reinstated. See the post by @MANOFCOINS above.
Yeah, I was trying to be more tongue in cheek assuming they weren't let back. In full disclosure, I just like the number 7, and I was not actually banned six previous times under user names mvs through mvs6.
Perhaps I should also clarify that I was not banned 3,141 times!
@mvs7 said:
Wow. Well I, for one, am looking forward to the first posts from Jwitten2 and Insider 3.
I know @jwitten and @Insider2 post on another forum I frequent. Maybe some of the other banned members do as well under a diff username. As others had said, it's a shame that these members got bounced and hopefully it is only temporary. IMO, with the exception of the original antagonist O2O, they provided interesting, helpful, and knowledgeable posts. Hopefully I'll see them on the other sites if they were thrown out with the bathwater
It is easy to say ignore the trolls, but a lot of people have a tough time just ignoring someone whose sole purpose seems to be to antagonize and attack others.
In general, bullies, stalkers, etc. all share certain traits and ignoring them can sometimes be dangerous, at least in the real world.
As for online troublemakers, I sometimes try to imagine what sort of person an aggressive troll is in real life. I suspect that they are the ones who engage in "road rage", vandalism, etc.
Gosh I hate that Insider2 and crazyhounddog were banned. I said from day 1 that disagree was not a useable tool without forcing a comment to accompany it. I think this pretty much shows that solely because of it's existance we are experiencing the loss of true contributors and great additions to this forum. I don't know if one is allowed back after expulsion but I certainly request that they are.
Jim
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I visit there from time to time, but if the NGC forum is Sleepy Hollow then that coin forum is Narcolepsy Boulevard. But the posters do like the word "smoe", I'll give them that.
I hope the powers that be are reading this thread.
First off, get rid of the DISAGREE button. It's been a useless bone of contention since day one.
Second, The FLAG button. In any forum it's an important tool to report occasional problem people but THIS IS THE ONLY FORUM that I have personally seen where the person being reported can see who reported them. That just fosters even worse conduct from the immature.
The FLAG button needs to stay, but it's use must ONLY BE SEEN BY MODERATORS.
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I hope the powers that be are reading this thread.
First off, get rid of the DISAGREE button. It's been a useless bone of contention since day one.
Second, The FLAG button. In any forum it's an important tool to report occasional problem people but THIS IS THE ONLY FORUM that I have personally seen where the person being reported can see who reported them. That just fosters even worse conduct from the immature.
The FLAG button needs to stay, but it's use must ONLY BE SEEN BY MODERATORS.
You can't see "report ". You can see the other flags
The whole episode is reminiscent of Bloody December 2006 around these parts although then the hot topic was some folks' opinion on how PCGS should run its business as I recall.
I'm glad some are back participating.
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Whew could easily of been me, glad I been to busy to come here. For the record I LOVE ALL THE MOD'S HERE!
I SEND ALL MY BUSINESS TO PCGS AND IF I EVER TALKED BAD ABOUT MY LOW GRADES I WAS JOKING I LOVED MY MS-68 SCORES. JUST GLAD IT WAS NOT ON THIS YEARS PALLADIUM. sorry about the shouting.
You can't see "report ". You can see the other flags
None of that should be visible to the person being reported.
One of the funniest days ever was when PCGS flipped the switch and we were able to see who was leaving all the flags and disagrees. There were quite a few members caught with their pants down that day, including some of the old timers.
@Swampboy said:
The whole episode is reminiscent of Bloody December 2006 around these parts although then the hot topic was some folks' opinion on how PCGS should run its business as I recall.
I'm glad some are back participating.
Oh my... I remember that!! It was about 6 months or so after I had joined. At the time, I hadn't actually met anyone from the boards and was just interested in learning as much as I could from the forum members with whom I engaged. I think that's sage advice these days as well... I just don't do drama. That said, this is a much different forum than it was 12 years ago...
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@Paradisefound said:
Dear @DonWillis
Please reconsider @Insider2 & @crazyhounddog a chance to come back; they've been an excellent contributors to this community .... many can attest to it.
Thank you for your consideration.
PF
The "vaults" here on CU Forums are so full of priceless knowledge that I have spent my fair time perusing them. I frequently have found great content by banned users and wondered what happened. Clicking on their user name would show a prolific, knowledgeable poster. It was hard to imagine why they were banned.
This is my first time seeing it happen and I am saddened that we are losing some great contributors. This place is like a giant "think-tank" for my favorite topic.
I visit there from time to time, but if the NGC forum is Sleepy Hollow then that coin forum is Narcolepsy Boulevard. But the posters do like the word "smoe", I'll give them that.
May be true, but if you participated more, it would be less “dead”
That’s part of the trouble. Lots of guests, not lots of folks willing to chat.
You can't see "report ". You can see the other flags
None of that should be visible to the person being reported.
Maybe. There's 2 sides to that. Anonymous reporting would allow a troll to go around flagging everyone silently. A group of people could then gang up anonymously on someone. On the other hand, putting your name on it visibly might (and has) lead to retaliation.
That's why it's probably just best to - except for extreme cases - just ignore people.
I visit there from time to time, but if the NGC forum is Sleepy Hollow then that coin forum is Narcolepsy Boulevard. But the posters do like the word "smoe", I'll give them that.
May be true, but if you participated more, it would be less “dead”
That’s part of the trouble. Lots of guests, not lots of folks willing to chat.
I did go and check out this forum after it was mentioned. I belong to another coin forum and enjoy looking for other sources of info, networking, etc. Can you tell me/us a little about the forum/vibe/compare/contrast to give an idea. I do not mind slow if there are worthwhile answers. Different places have different niches and benefits. This place is amazing but I like to supplement it with what is available.
As for online troublemakers, I sometimes try to imagine what sort of person an aggressive troll is in real life. I suspect that they are the ones who engage in "road rage", vandalism, etc.
I’ve belonged to several boards for different hobbies. It seems the coin groups attract more than their fair share of troublemakers. Wonder why that is.
Message boards can be tricky sometimes.
1. Ignore the buttons at the bottom. Just don't touch them ever.
2. Ignore any "score" or "decoration" or other fake thing that exists.
3. On a message board, your only value or lack thereof comes from what you type in. That is how people will know you. Nobody will judge you by what other people type, we will just judge them. Specialist eventually learned this in conversation with Bill. It just took awhile.
Ironically, many of the old-timers that claim younger folk don't know how to use the written language are now getting tripped up by it on a new platform. I call it the "millennial revenge".
@MANOFCOINS said:
be careful what you say here there could be round 2 of banning (not kidding) some of us here are pushing the envelope. I would imagine the members that are banned will be back soon in mean time lets not add to that list.
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@silverpop said:
high doubt temporary bans exist here, i gather once you are banned it's over for you on this site no second chances
Good thing there is no longer a disagree button, because I would disagree with that.
There have been a few members, or the years, including within the last few, that have been banned for a short time (essentially, given a temp ban or a short time out) and then come back with the ok of the one who banned them.
It happens. It is up to PCGS management to make the decision.
@OldEastside said:
I hope it's temporary as well, because I don't like the idea of missing out on a visual fix of some of the most beautiful gorgeous striking Buffalos I've ever seen, and a few others contributions as well
Well Steve, I know you're not talking about my Icon Buffalo!!!!! Next time I go to a coin shop, I'm searching for one of those gorgeous striking Buffalos and then that will become my new Icon!!!!!! It's on my list. I love Buffalos but don't have a really nice one yet.
@OldEastside said:
I hope it's temporary as well, because I don't like the idea of missing out on a visual fix of some of the most beautiful gorgeous striking Buffalos I've ever seen, and a few others contributions as well
Well Steve, I know you're not talking about my Icon Buffalo!!!!! Next time I go to a coin shop, I'm searching for one of those gorgeous striking Buffalos and then that will become my new Icon!!!!!! It's on my list. I love Buffalos but don't have a really nice one yet.
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Perhaps I should also clarify that I was not banned 3,141 times!
I know @jwitten and @Insider2 post on another forum I frequent. Maybe some of the other banned members do as well under a diff username. As others had said, it's a shame that these members got bounced and hopefully it is only temporary. IMO, with the exception of the original antagonist O2O, they provided interesting, helpful, and knowledgeable posts. Hopefully I'll see them on the other sites if they were thrown out with the bathwater
Not sure what happened but I'll miss seeing those toned Buff's.
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It is easy to say ignore the trolls, but a lot of people have a tough time just ignoring someone whose sole purpose seems to be to antagonize and attack others.
In general, bullies, stalkers, etc. all share certain traits and ignoring them can sometimes be dangerous, at least in the real world.
As for online troublemakers, I sometimes try to imagine what sort of person an aggressive troll is in real life. I suspect that they are the ones who engage in "road rage", vandalism, etc.
Gosh I hate that Insider2 and crazyhounddog were banned. I said from day 1 that disagree was not a useable tool without forcing a comment to accompany it. I think this pretty much shows that solely because of it's existance we are experiencing the loss of true contributors and great additions to this forum. I don't know if one is allowed back after expulsion but I certainly request that they are.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
I visit there from time to time, but if the NGC forum is Sleepy Hollow then that coin forum is Narcolepsy Boulevard. But the posters do like the word "smoe", I'll give them that.
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I hope the powers that be are reading this thread.
First off, get rid of the DISAGREE button. It's been a useless bone of contention since day one.
Second, The FLAG button. In any forum it's an important tool to report occasional problem people but THIS IS THE ONLY FORUM that I have personally seen where the person being reported can see who reported them. That just fosters even worse conduct from the immature.
The FLAG button needs to stay, but it's use must ONLY BE SEEN BY MODERATORS.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
You can't see "report ". You can see the other flags
The whole episode is reminiscent of Bloody December 2006 around these parts although then the hot topic was some folks' opinion on how PCGS should run its business as I recall.
I'm glad some are back participating.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
Whew could easily of been me, glad I been to busy to come here. For the record I LOVE ALL THE MOD'S HERE!
I SEND ALL MY BUSINESS TO PCGS AND IF I EVER TALKED BAD ABOUT MY LOW GRADES I WAS JOKING I LOVED MY MS-68 SCORES. JUST GLAD IT WAS NOT ON THIS YEARS PALLADIUM. sorry about the shouting.
None of that should be visible to the person being reported.
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He was also complaining that certain members were attacking him. > @ms70 said:
One of the funniest days ever was when PCGS flipped the switch and we were able to see who was leaving all the flags and disagrees. There were quite a few members caught with their pants down that day, including some of the old timers.
Oh my... I remember that!! It was about 6 months or so after I had joined. At the time, I hadn't actually met anyone from the boards and was just interested in learning as much as I could from the forum members with whom I engaged. I think that's sage advice these days as well... I just don't do drama. That said, this is a much different forum than it was 12 years ago...
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I agree, 100%
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The "vaults" here on CU Forums are so full of priceless knowledge that I have spent my fair time perusing them. I frequently have found great content by banned users and wondered what happened. Clicking on their user name would show a prolific, knowledgeable poster. It was hard to imagine why they were banned.
This is my first time seeing it happen and I am saddened that we are losing some great contributors. This place is like a giant "think-tank" for my favorite topic.
I like Insider as he gave me inside information. Thank you for that and I hope you come back.
May be true, but if you participated more, it would be less “dead”
That’s part of the trouble. Lots of guests, not lots of folks willing to chat.
Maybe. There's 2 sides to that. Anonymous reporting would allow a troll to go around flagging everyone silently. A group of people could then gang up anonymously on someone. On the other hand, putting your name on it visibly might (and has) lead to retaliation.
That's why it's probably just best to - except for extreme cases - just ignore people.
It's shocking to log in today and find all of these members banned, I really hope insider2, jwitten and crazyhounddog can be reinstated!
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that sure is a sad turn of events when one thing like that effects everyone. just saying
I already missed @crazyhounddog @Insider2 @jwitten @Raybo .... what a loss due to a bullying .... continued pushing them to the edge
I did go and check out this forum after it was mentioned. I belong to another coin forum and enjoy looking for other sources of info, networking, etc. Can you tell me/us a little about the forum/vibe/compare/contrast to give an idea. I do not mind slow if there are worthwhile answers. Different places have different niches and benefits. This place is amazing but I like to supplement it with what is available.
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Read them often..
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I second that! I miss them too! Please let them back!
Ps I love the Moderators too!
Hey..... I like Star Trek conventions!!!
Those people use Harry Potter based screen names and have harry potter tattoos are the ones you have to watch out for though..
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Check out this thread for some ideas:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/917398/coin-tattoos
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Even if we had disagreements it was all in good fun and in the spirit of this hobby at the end of the day everyone was smiling.
Sad to see them banned.
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Read here for your edification.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
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I’ve belonged to several boards for different hobbies. It seems the coin groups attract more than their fair share of troublemakers. Wonder why that is.
JW will be missed.
Hmmm. Seems I missed some drama. Guess I should have logged on yesterday.
On second thought, maybe it's better I didn't. Ha.
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Message boards can be tricky sometimes.
1. Ignore the buttons at the bottom. Just don't touch them ever.
2. Ignore any "score" or "decoration" or other fake thing that exists.
3. On a message board, your only value or lack thereof comes from what you type in. That is how people will know you. Nobody will judge you by what other people type, we will just judge them. Specialist eventually learned this in conversation with Bill. It just took awhile.
Ironically, many of the old-timers that claim younger folk don't know how to use the written language are now getting tripped up by it on a new platform. I call it the "millennial revenge".
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I hear you man I hear you! I am being good!
Am I on the list? 
I love everybody! I do! I listened to John K!
Don't get confused..........It IS better you didn't. I also missed the conflagration. I'm saddened to no end at the result.
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That's actually deep. Noice!
The problem is solved. The DISAGREE has been nuked by PCGS.
Return to normalcy? No. It took down a whole lot of good people.
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Good thing there is no longer a disagree button, because I would disagree with that.
There have been a few members, or the years, including within the last few, that have been banned for a short time (essentially, given a temp ban or a short time out) and then come back with the ok of the one who banned them.
It happens. It is up to PCGS management to make the decision.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
I see your point, but it is not very convincing.
Looks like they just removed the "disagrees" and some other things from a member profile.
As well as removing the "disagree" button.
Well Steve, I know you're not talking about my Icon Buffalo!!!!! Next time I go to a coin shop, I'm searching for one of those gorgeous striking Buffalos and then that will become my new Icon!!!!!! It's on my list. I love Buffalos but don't have a really nice one yet.
My collection of disagrees is gone! I was hoping they'd become rare and I could sell them for a fortune.
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Interesting, I notice some individual posts disappeared too.
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