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logger7logger7 Posts: 10,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Any thoughts, technical, philosophical, even teleological on this coin? How would you being the ultimate and final arbiter grade it?

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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Middle of the road AU.

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    Peace_dollar88Peace_dollar88 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love double eagles! great looking choice AU.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU, I would think.

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    AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU says this amateur. :)
    Beautiful coin by the way.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,851 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Typical baggy AU. Better date but otherwise nothing special.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 36,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Au sharpness, but I'm afraid that the long scratch that is headed toward Ms. Liberty's eye, might give it a "details" grade.

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    Au sharpness, but I'm afraid that the long scratch that is headed toward Ms. Liberty's eye, might give it a "details" grade.

    I agree it might go as a details coin. If it grades problem-free it has a shot at MS60 or 61 (best case scenario).

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,019 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    Au sharpness, but I'm afraid that the long scratch that is headed toward Ms. Liberty's eye, might give it a "details" grade.

    +1

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU50 congrats

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55...

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58 or MS61

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the luster and surface marks it appears to be an AU coin, but badly banged up and scratched. The owner would except to be offered VF to EF money for it.

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    divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking XF for a grade based on the photos.

    It's gold, so I like it.

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    kazkaz Posts: 9,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS60, or maybe details cuz of the obv scratch..

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    Mdcoincollector2003Mdcoincollector2003 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Au and that is my dream coin I love the reverse.

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    BloodManBloodMan Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU55, and i don't think the hits near the eye will result in a details grade on a double eagle.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53 with the dings and chatter.... Cheers, RickO

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 36,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 11, 2018 6:23AM

    @Mdcoincollector2003 said:
    Au and that is my dream coin I love the reverse.

    The 1904-P double eagle has that reverse and is by far the most common date. The 1904-S is fairly common too along with the 1898-S.

    Buy a certified one though. I got stuck was a well made counterfeit in the 1970s. Fortunately the price of gold went up so I scrapped it out for what I had in it.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 10,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 11, 2018 11:15AM

    It sure looked Unc. to me when I bought it and there are plenty of worse looking, doggy $20 pieces like this in 60/61 holders, especially PCGS. It graded NGC/60.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,851 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    It sure looked Unc. to me when I bought it and there are plenty of worse looking, doggy $20 pieces like this in 60/61 holders, especially PCGS. NGC/60.

    Are you planning to get it slabbed? If so, please let us know how you make out.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 10,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the NGC image, where the face scratch in not prominent: https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4711548-001/60/#group-1

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,851 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Here is the NGC image, where the face scratch in not prominent: https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4711548-001/60/#group-1

    I think NGC got the grade correct but I like your pics better than the NGC pics.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 10,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I stepped up the scanner to 1200 dpi, 48 bit color and multi-tiff, not sure if that made much difference:


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    kazkaz Posts: 9,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    60 it is! From the NGC images I see the "scratch" in front of the face is more like reed marks or chatter than a single long mark.

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    CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    60 is spot on in this case.

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