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After 30 years of collecting Indian Cents, I have never seen a PCGS 1867 graded MS 66 red

Suddenly two examples have been graded !
Check out the images on coin facts

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    Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a fan of either, nice but just nice. I prefer the 65+ imaged on coin facts.

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    AblinkyAblinky Posts: 625 ✭✭✭

    Interesting, it looks like the new PCGS plate coin was an NGC 65RD that Stacks sold at Baltimore in June of this year, not sure about the other 66 RD though.

    Andrew Blinkiewicz-Heritage

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are nice coins, and the first one has beautiful color, but there are too many small marks for the grade IMO.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The pop report shows 3 in MS66RD, but two are recent.

    Here are the 3 cert numbers if you want to look them up
    7298830
    36058206
    36175725

    This cert, 36103783, is imaged on CoinFacts, but is no longer valid.

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
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    STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    All coins Rule - no reconsideration, this coin was graded about 30 years ago and no one has ever seen it.

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS said:
    All coins Rule - no reconsideration, this coin was graded about 30 years ago and no one has ever seen it.

    Who has this coin now?

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2018 12:53PM

    Here's the TrueView for one. Couldn't find them for the others.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2018 12:59PM

    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS said on September 30, 2018 8:47AM:
    Suddenly two examples have been graded !
    Check out the images on coin facts

    That's old news! Four hours later, at 12:52pm, there are now three examples ;)

    https://www.pcgs.com/pop/detail/indian-cent-1859-1909/44?sn=2090&p=MS&g=66&ccid=667

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "to the victor belongs the spoils. "

    I still contend there is stuff out there we may never see in our lifetime ... hidden away . But eye appeal is evident in high grades. And obviously rare.

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    STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    Zoins- the coin you posted, the plate coin on CoinFacts and the other coin no one has ever seen.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2018 1:45PM

    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS said:
    Zoins- the coin you posted, the plate coin on CoinFacts and the other coin no one has ever seen.

    I personally like rare coins with good photos / TrueViews so everyone can view them but I understand and respect that some people like keeping their coins private. I recall you mentioning you don't like having your coins photographed as well.

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    More will appear - that is the nature of grade inflation.

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    specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Didn't really high end MS65 RD sell recently?

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    EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,676 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    Here's the TrueView for one. Couldn't find them for the others.

    I see this upgraded from a 65RD, as there are still two true views of this coin at that grade.

    Rick Snow, Eagle Eye Rare Coins, Inc.Check out my new web site:
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2018 2:55PM

    @EagleEye said:

    @Zoins said:
    Here's the TrueView for one. Couldn't find them for the others.

    I see this upgraded from a 65RD, as there are still two true views of this coin at that grade.

    Great eagle eye!

    Here they are:


    And the TrueViews with the 66 at the bottom for comparison:



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    BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2018 3:44PM

    Sorry, wrong thread.

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    GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2018 10:01AM

    So if I understand this all 3 certificates are of the exact same coin with the choppiness left of the date and mark on the neck.

    Population report should show only one if it was correct and the two prior certificates removed. However, it seems over-graded to me now considering those obverse marks.

    Edited to say the reverse is really nice. Didn't they used to have grades like 65/67 for obverse/reverse? Why did that stop?

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting... report says three, but all three seem to be the same coin. Cheers, RickO

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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 12,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That coin was undergraded at 65 IMHO

    Regardless, it's just beautiful!!

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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2018 9:07AM

    @MANOFCOINS said:
    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS said:
    Zoins- the coin you posted, the plate coin on CoinFacts and the other coin no one has ever seen.

    At least 6 have seen it. 3 graders, finalizer, owner and photographer.

    It may have also had another owner or three in the past 151 years. But maybe no one important right? Neat coins, has always been a nice semi key date, of course mine is a VG with some history in commerce.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice looking coins!

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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look at the craters at 7:00! I much prefer my 65+, and another 65 I have. These two 66's are bait for a big fish.

    Doug

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