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Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

I was happy to pick up this Stone Mountain for my commem set, which for no logical reason I decided to try and limit to older holders.

This is such a common coin, but very few ever catch my attention. This one I liked the rim toning, which fits other coins in the set.

Comments welcome. Guess the grade, if you like.

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  • CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful coin, I guess 65

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinCrazyPA said:
    Beautiful coin, I guess 65

    Same here.

  • sarikanairsarikanair Posts: 154 ✭✭✭

    You are right.. the rim toning is pretty unique and impressive... I suppose grading would be somewhere around MS 65.. Cheers!

  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a real beauty. I'll guess it's a 66. I love those old NGC No Line Fatty holders. I'm guessing the back of the slab has the gold embossed NGC logo?

  • RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭✭

    I have no clue how to grade these, (64-65-66?) so, rather than hazard a silly guess I'll simply say that it is a beautiful coin. I LOVE the original skin and the subtle rim toning. It's very easy to see why you selected it. CONGRATS! It's an excellent example.

  • shishshish Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Attractive MS-63

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  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 65
    (A very attractive example too!)

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,595 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, I cheated and looked it up. :)

    I like this example and the toning is the sort that accentuates the design details.

  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2018 5:12AM

    Looks nice. I think its a MS63. I would say MS64 but there is a lot going on with the rims on the reverse of the coin.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a 63 to me considering the rim hits....Cheers, RickO

  • batumibatumi Posts: 789 ✭✭✭✭

    Attractive MS64 is my guess. Just too many hits to 65 imo.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,046 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This will be an unpopular view, but the coin looks like a slider to me. It’s probably envelope friction or dullness, but General Lee’s thigh and leg look flat to me, and there is also a dull spot on the eagle’s breast on the reverse,. I’d say MS-63 for the slab grade, but I’d be more inclined to say commercial MS-62.

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  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭

    Looks old time 64 to me.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ill go with ms 63 but maybe a 64 on a good day

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,224 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the holder! Nice coin, too. Is it a hologram reverse? Or the gold logo?

  • Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gold logo

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The absence of luster held it back.

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,012 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice coin!

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2018 2:17PM

    Thought it was ,,,stone mt.:(

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,646 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @grip said:

    Thought it was ,,,stone mt.:(

    Is there such a place as Stone, Montana?

  • RWMRWM Posts: 202 ✭✭✭

    I think it is under graded myself. That is a very nice example. Thanks for sharing.

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the people that throw out a grade without looking, and I really don't like (appreciate) the people that look-up the coin and...............................

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For some certain reason people say they can't give the grade of a coin from an image, and than all of a sudden POOF...they happen to be master "graders".

    You have two things going against you Bob, the first is the service that your coin happens to be entombed in, and second is............... never mind. :#

  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2018 5:57PM

    I really like this one. I obviously read too much luster into the image, but I still think it's better than a 63. I also love those old NGC holders.

    I have a couple of coins I just bought from the same seller on eBay. My first purchase from them as well and I hope I am as happy with them as you are. :)

  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I should be ashamed because I live in Georgia...but I have never been able to grade these :B My gut told me 64. Really nice coin!

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Missed the chance, but I would have been at 64 as well. Guess the lack of luster held it back.

  • Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭✭✭


    I sold this coin, someone must have cracked it out... it did make 65 and did OK at auction....

    My current "Box of 20"

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 31,841 ✭✭✭✭✭


    I was thinking 65

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd call it a 4 today. The friction on the horse riders leg is grade limiting.

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  • KoveKove Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭✭

    Interesting follow up.

    It's a nice coin.

  • stockdude_stockdude_ Posts: 456 ✭✭✭

    I remember seeing that coin on GC. I see it as an AU or if UNC its poorly struck on the obverse so i dont see it as a 65. Someone else did apparently

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2 point upgrade from the NGC holder. Somebody did well.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,411 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sad to see an old fattie bite the dust for such a low value upgrade, on the good side everyone that does get cracked just makes the ones I have a bit more valuable.

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    2 point upgrade from the NGC holder. Somebody did well.

    Not as well as you'd think with old holder premium and grading fees.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2021 9:54AM

    @coinbuf said:
    Sad to see an old fattie bite the dust for such a low value upgrade, on the good side everyone that does get cracked just makes the ones I have a bit more valuable.

    My thoughts exactly. When I did a cert lookup on the old fattie, it earned a CAC green bean. Maybe the owner thought a green sticker hurt the value???? The photo of the slab shows residue where the sticker was removed. Now, no sticker. Personally, I'd probably pay more for this coin in a CAC'd old MS63 fattie than in its new PCGS 65 holder. The coin hasn't changed. The value difference from fattie NGC 63 to PCGS 65 isn't all that great.... most likely not even enough to cover grading fees, shipping, and such.

    Oh well......

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