GSA Morgan Dollar Hoard Date Distribution & Original Mintage - Reference Chart

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Stuart
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I’m pleased to share this GSA Morgan Dollar Hoard👇Date Distribution & Original Mintage Reference Chart with my fellow forum members.


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  • morgandollar1878
    morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice, thanks for sharing.

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  • tyler267
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    Does anyone know if the the 1889cc 1892cc or 1893cc still resided in GSA packaging. I know everyone says buy the coin, but in this case I think having a pop 1 packaging would be pretty cool.

  • metalmeister
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    Still looking for a 89cc. Thanks for posting.

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  • PTVETTER
    PTVETTER Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The 89CC was once owned by a Pittsburgh dealer

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  • blu62vette
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    @tyler267 said:
    Does anyone know if the the 1889cc 1892cc or 1893cc still resided in GSA packaging. I know everyone says buy the coin, but in this case I think having a pop 1 packaging would be pretty cool.

    2 of the 3 are still in the original box.

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  • bugbit
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    Great reference to have. Thanks for sharing.

  • TONEDDOLLARS
    TONEDDOLLARS Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭✭
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    I had the 93-cc and brought it to FUN last year to be graded. After answering many questions about the province of the coin it was graded XF-45

  • TONEDDOLLARS
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    By the way both the 89&93 are now together in one collection

  • Timbuk3
    Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thanks for sharing !!! :)

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  • 7over8
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    FWIW—the 89, 92 and 93-cc unc Coins were not found in the original hoard; they were placed in holders for the complete set to tour the country.

  • LanceNewmanOCC
    LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nice

    I'd love to see a soft and hard pack chart like this but with known pops.

    wouldn't be too hard, just a bit time consuming.

    if I were still at it....
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  • tyler267
    tyler267 Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭
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    Thanks for the info

  • BStrauss3
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    The data is out there in the PCGS and NGC population reports, of course, repeat submissions would exaggerate the numbers.

    For example, for the 1878CC, NGC lists 3,634 GSA and 666 GSA Soft Pack. Plus 306 and 8 PL and 8 / 0 DMPL.

    PCGS doesn't appear to differentiate the soft pack, they list 184, 23 PL and 0 DMPL.

    That gives a high estimate of about 4,622 coins out of 60,993 in TPG plastic or 7.5%

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  • Elcontador
    Elcontador Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I bought 12 of these coins in 1980 from the mint for $45 each. For $45 each, you got a random Unc. boxed CC $. You could select your date and pay what the mint deemed to be market price for it, pursuant to their price list. I opted for the former because I needed to see a coin before I paid for it. For $45, I thought the worst I could do is unload it for what I paid for it, if I didn't like the coin.

    I got 1 82 CC, 5 83 CCs, and 6 84 CCs. 8 of them were the ugliest Unc. Morgans I had ever seen, and I unloaded them immediately. They were so ugly, that they almost hurt my eyes to look at them. The other 4 went to PCGS. One was a 64, and I sold it for what I paid for it plus grading fees. I made some money on the MS 65s. I still have the 84 CC in PC 6. It now has a sticker and is a really nice coin.

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  • ricko
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    Good information.... I will add that to my file on CC Morgans. Cheers, RickO

  • littlebear
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    Thanks for the info!

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  • Kkathyl
    Kkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    so 20.38% of the mintage was hoarded.

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  • ChangeInHistory
    ChangeInHistory Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Good info, thanks for posting it.

  • BStrauss3
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    @Kkathyl said:
    so 18% of the mintage was hoarded.

    Really wasn't a hoard in the traditional sense. There just was no call for the coins. So they sat in the vault at Carson City and were then shipped East to Philly when the CC mint closed.

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  • yosclimber
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  • AUandAG
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    @BStrauss3 said:
    The data is out there in the PCGS and NGC population reports, of course, repeat submissions would exaggerate the numbers.

    For example, for the 1878CC, NGC lists 3,634 GSA and 666 GSA Soft Pack. Plus 306 and 8 PL and 8 / 0 DMPL.

    PCGS doesn't appear to differentiate the soft pack, they list 184, 23 PL and 0 DMPL.

    That gives a high estimate of about 4,622 coins out of 60,993 in TPG plastic or 7.5%

    No, your math is off. In ADDITION to the hard packs were 13,526 '78cc's in soft packs.
    bob :)

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  • AUandAG
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    @BStrauss3 said:

    @Kkathyl said:
    so 18% of the mintage was hoarded.

    Really wasn't a hoard in the traditional sense. There just was no call for the coins. So they sat in the vault at Carson City and were then shipped East to Philly when the CC mint closed.

    No, this is also incorrect. The mint quit producing coins in 1893 but remained a Mint until 1899 when it became an assay office. Nv Congressman Francis Newlands had introduced a bill in Congress to force the the Gov't to either reopen as a Mint or turn it into strictly an assay facility. The assay facility won out and the facility was changed over on July 1, 1899.
    In mid July of that year 8 to 10 boxcars of silver dollars were shipped back east. 22 tons of silver and silver dollars. This amounted to a value of $800,000. These became the GSA dollars we know today.
    bob :)

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  • SaorAlba
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    @AUandAG said:

    In mid July of that year 8 to 10 boxcars of silver dollars were shipped back east. 22 tons of silver and silver dollars. This amounted to a value of $800,000. These became the GSA dollars we know today.
    bob :)

    So the Philly mint sat on these coins for years while cranking out Morgans until 1904, then 1921 then all the Peace dollars - sort of like a clerical "save" for the future.

  • Stuart
    Stuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I’m pleased that so many fellow Forum Members have found this👇Information to be helpful. :)


    Stuart

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