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$5 Indian Dilemma - 63+ or 64 ?

philographerphilographer Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

Have been watching the prices of $5 Indians drift lower and lower over the past 8 years. At Coinfest in Stamford around 2009 I think the price of a PCGS CAC 64 was around $3,800.

Am watching the falling knife, but can get a nice PCGS CAC 63+ in the $1,100 - $1,300+ range, or a PCGS CAC 64 in the $2,300 - $2,600 + range.

Which would you choose and why? And what does the crystal ball say about the $5 Indians over the next decade? :wink:

He who knows he has enough is rich.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buy the best grade you can afford (as long as it is graded correctly). In this case the 64.

    But I'm cheap. If the 63+ CAC is really nice, that's my pick as you'll have money left to get another. Best of all, wait a few years and it may become a 64.

  • philographerphilographer Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2018 6:14PM

    make a general assumption that at 64 is a titch better than a 63+. Is it worth a $1,200 premium?

    (Edited: This is the 63+)

    He who knows he has enough is rich.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 64 may be a high end. So probably yes if you are an investor. That's a nice coin you posted.

    Here is another thing (if you can get away with it). During a slow period of a major show I went to a very big dealer looking for a five Indian in 62 (a REAL 62 w/no rub) for my teaching set. I told the dealer I was there to buy a coin and would not leave without one. LOL

    He let me look at every 62 they had. I left the table with a truly Uncirculated (no rub) coin I personally thought should be in an MS-63 holder. The point is, if you look at enough 63+ coins you'll find a solid 64 and some 64's will have a shot at a 65. Take your time. I hear prices are dropping so time is on your side.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The number on the holder is not the determining factor; it’s the coin in the holder.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • philographerphilographer Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2018 6:36PM

    They are about $1,300 cheaper than 26 years ago (when I bought my first gold coins from North American Rare Coin Galleries, Teletrade, and Heritage Rare Coin Galleries) ;)

    He who knows he has enough is rich.

  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @philographer said:

    They are about $1,300 cheaper than 26 years ago (when I bought my first gold coins from North American Rare Coin Galleries, Teletrade, and Heritage Rare Coin Galleries) ;)

    Interesting, the largest and newest gold coin was the cheapest.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,578 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d go with whatever you like best in person.
    I just got one a few months ago and it happened to be a 64. I very happy with mine.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:
    Pick the best looking one. Eye appeal trumps grade for me.

    Yep! Pick the coin not some stupid label.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2018 11:42PM

    @philographer
    It's been a back and forth sensing in my head too ..... I incline to go with 2's at lower grade 63 :)
    This popular series will only increase in price over period of time IMHO
    Good luck with your hunt and hopefully we don't go head to head on same coins ;)

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As always, it's all about eye appeal. All things being equal, I'd go for (2) 63+. It's JMHO. Good luck and keep us posted !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When I am viewing possible purchases, I inevitably go for the coin that appeals to me the most, without regard to label. I have no regrets doing this and often, when I have time and the inclination, checking values, I have done quite well. Since I do not sell coins, I only infrequently look at values of coins I already have. Though, it becomes quite obvious when looking at one for sale, and recalling what I paid for an equal coin five or ten years ago. :) Cheers, RickO

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