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Curious as to why no one bid on this...any opinions?
Hallco
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Just ended. This is the same coin and grade(not the exact, but an example of) as a dealer in Dalton was selling for more than double the opening amount. I am looking for a little better condition and a little dirtier for myself, but I was surprised that it did not get any bids. What am I missing?
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nevermind, clicked on a current auction....my bad.
Overpriced is all. If straight graded the value would be there. But, it's raw.
bob
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Who knows. Looks like a nice well struck super clean example for the grade that would fit nicely in a circulated set of walkers.
it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide
So many coins on eBay, some just get overlooked.
Maybe nobody is looking for a VG10 - either higher or lower.
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My guess is one of two things:
Clicked on the link, was taken to a "similar" item currently available.
That item being a Chinese "1921" Walking Liberty.
**** **** eBay !
I had no trouble viewing the original item. Perhaps that has disappeared.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I think there are some good explanations here. I'm holding off to find a solid 12 or maybe 15, but I wanted to follow this one to see if the dealer price in Dalton was excessive...and it appears as though it was!
I didn't look, as someone stated it is no longer visible, but the 21S walker
is relatively common in all grades up to and including VF20.
There are plenty of problem free lower grade examples around raw and slabbed,
just wait and you will find one that is attractive and reasonably priced.
Now if you were looking for an XF or AU example, your selection drops to almost nil.
Very interesting date from a condition perspective.
Would fit in perfectly with my set...What's not to like?
It's as fake as fake can be Walkerguy21D, almost made me puke just looking at it.
Posting pics for those of you who could not find the original listing. It was started at $115 and got zero bids. The dealer I mentioned in Dalton had his priced at $260.00!
Still seems like it wouid have been a good price. I just got scared away by the lack of bidding and thought I was missing something. @Walkerguy21D says though...I will find another one that is dirtier and a little better grade that I like better
Looks like a decent example. Send him a note with an offer.
The thing doesn’t look right to me. I think that it is a counterfeit. The lack of detail on the high points of the reverse design combined with “mint luster” is disturbing. The design resembles the real thing, but is not quite right.
Having said that, I am surprised that no one bid. Usually bidders flock to “bargain priced” counterfeits on eBay. Maybe they need to be in counterfeit grading holders to get the unwarranted attention these days.
@tommy44 I agree with this. @Hallco I think it's a no-problem coin (if you ignore some minor fingerprint traces in the left obv. field). @BillJones if you clicked the original link it did come up and show a Chinese counterfeit, from that page you have to click "View Original Item."
My two 1909 VDB cents.
Kind regards,
George
Coin has nice color and looks to be problem free. The Ebay auction history has other PC VG10's going from the $120-$150 range. Looked liked a solid deal at the listed price. Perhaps bidders felt it was closer to a VG8 range?
Agree the original coin (not the pop up fake) was solid for the grade at VG10.
Looking at auction records on Coinfacts, most seem to sell for right around the initial
bid price, some lower, some slightly higher. With many hundreds from which to choose,
I'm guessing no one was currently in the market for one at this grade level that was fairly priced;
it happens.
As for the dealer in GA asking $260- that's F15 money....either he was real proud of that coin, or was hoping for an unknowledgeable retail collector to come along and make his day. I highly doubt it was undergraded by that much.
To the OP - what are seeking? are you building a matched set, or just want walker dated 1921, in the highest affordable grade? If the latter, you chose the best of the threesome, and coins graded F12/15 aren't too outrageous. If the former, bear in mind the 21D in true F12/15 is tougher to locate, and will likely run you well >$400.
And there is nothing wrong with mixing grades....my 21 threesome is a 58, a 53, and an XF40, for the 21P, D, and S, respectively. And the 21P was the cheap one, and the 21S by far the most expensive.
The coin in the original listing looks fairly graded. I would say that likely no one was seeking a VG10 at this time....Many collectors shy away from lower grades. I have noticed this among newer collectors quite frequently. Cheers, RickO
I would ultimately like to have all the early dates and mintmarks from 16-23 in F12/15 with original and some would call dirty surfaces. I chose 21-S(along with two others) to start my new journey because it was one of the coins I remember wanting before I left collecting and never acquired.
**I would ultimately like to have all the early dates and mintmarks from 16-23 in F12/15 with original and some would call dirty surfaces. **
Excellent goal! Those dates at that grade level look nice, and represent a challenging but attainable project. Best of luck in your endeavor.
@Walkerguy21D Thank you sir!
I Dunno. It is a nice, clean solid VG-10 leaning more towards f-12 IMHOP. Stuff happens.
Pete