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What was Gasparro's connection to Italy?

ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 26, 2018 4:06PM in U.S. Coin Forum

This image mentions Frank Gasparro was Cavalier Ufficiale of Italy. Does anyone know what this is in reference to? Google Translates this to "Official Cavalier" which still doesn't tell me what this is.

  • www.pandaamerica.com/NEWS_FrankGasparro_3_2_04_PRINT.html

Wikipedia mentions the following which I don't think this is in reference to:

Friends close to Gasparro had serious suspicion regarding close ties he established to organized crime while in Italy but he routinely denied any connection. John Edgar Hoover, Director of the FBI during Gasparro's tenure at the Mint, was often suspicious of Gasparro's intentions. Hoover was concerned Gasparro was being influenced by an Italian crime family in the town of Bari to design coins with details easily counterfeited by Italian Crime families.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 25, 2018 3:15PM

    Some more searches identified this as an Italian knighthood he received in 1973 from the Italian government. It would be great to get a photo of the letter.

    This is from the NY Times:

    Frank Gasparro, chief engraver of the United States Mint, has received high honors from the Government of Italy. The designer of the Memorial reverse of the Lincoln cent and the reverse of the Kennedy half‐dollar, among other works, has been named a “Cavaliere Ufficiale dell'Ordine ‘Al Merito della Repubblica Italiana.’” He received the citation, accompanied by a letter and a decoration from the President of Italy, at a ceremony late last month in the office of the Consul General of Italy in Philadelphia. The citation emphasized the cultural ties between America and Italy fostered by Mr. Gasparro's many achievements in coin design and medallic art.

    This is from Wikipedia:

    Knighthood (Cavaliere di Gran Croce, Grande Ufficiale, Commendatore – comm., Cavaliere Ufficiale – cav. uff., Cavaliere – cav.) of five Orders (Ordine al Merito della Repubblica Italiana, Ordine Militare d’Italia, Ordine al Merito del Lavoro, Ordine della Stella d'Italia, Ordine di Vittorio Veneto)

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,481 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Italians in America had a lot of fraternal organizations they could join. Like other ethic groups, when they got to the US they banded together.

    This is no big deal, or mystery. I'm not speaking out of my hat, as my maternal grandparents were Italian.

    I can not see or believe that Francesco Gasparro had any "forced" influence on him.

    The organizations he belonged to would probably, as a rule, mentioned what they thought would have been appropriate designs that he could engrave,

    If you're looking for the proverbial "gun" to his head, I don't think you will find it.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Like Hoover wasn't busy enough trying to decide which dress to wear after 6. Italy honors an Italian American because he is an accomplished artist. That's gotta mean he's a gangsta. Peace Roy

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    J. Edgar's concern was the the mafia might 'out' him....His home security was critical for that reason. Cheers, RickO

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,481 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gasparro was born in Philadelphia in 1909. I saw his birth certificate.

    His parents were also born in the USA.

    Of course Italy would be proud of Frank. It's only natural.

    Would anyone here like to point out anything that Gasparro did that would be "easily" counterfieted?

    If so, was the design purposely done with that in mind?

    Is there any evidence Gasparro had ties to anyone? State your proof.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a number of signed items from frank gasparro !

    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yada...yada...yada...yada!

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 26, 2018 2:01PM

    Zion that link you put up with Panamerica I got a warning from that site this is what it said;

    Your connection is not private
    Attackers might be trying to steal your information from www.pandaamerica.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). Learn more

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    His grandparents?

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 26, 2018 4:16PM

    @Gluggo said:
    Zion that link you put up with Panamerica I got a warning from that site this is what it said;

    Your connection is not private
    Attackers might be trying to steal your information from www.pandaamerica.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). Learn more

    PandaAmerica seems to have a problem with their TLS configuration. I've made the link unclickable for now.

    BTW, I'm not saying Hoover had any evidence. I was just looking for a connection to Italy and it's the only thing mentioned on his Wikipedia page.

    It is interesting he was born in the same month the Lincoln cent was announced in 1909.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,288 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PTVETTER said:
    I have a number of signed items from frank gasparro !

    Very cool. What do you have? Got any pics?

    @coinkid855 has a number of plasters posted here:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/993407/anyone-recognize-this-gasparro-design-from-this-plaster

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