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1802 $1 BB-232 ?

I did the attribution as a BB-232 (B-4) but the color and strike have my skeptical of authenticity.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 7, 2018 1:55PM

    I don't like this piece at all. I would never buy it from this photo.

    Having said that, the coin appears to have the features of the BB-232 variety. It could be genuine, or the dies that made made it could have been copied from a genuine coin. Whatever it is, the eye appeal is very poor in my opinion.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,933 ✭✭✭✭✭

    id pass on that one as. to funky for me

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is a PCGS-AU58 specimen of the variety for comparison:


    The obverse stars are very sharply struck, but the hair detail does not match that level of definition. The piece otherwise does not show any die cracks that could explain the weakness of the hair detail, so I agree with your skepticism.

  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭

    @Sheldon_Overton_Baby said:
    I did the attribution as a BB-232 (B-4) but the color and strike have my skeptical of authenticity.

    That coin looks very odd. How does the edge lettering look?

  • JohnFJohnF Posts: 325 ✭✭✭✭

    Not even close.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does not enlarge well and the color around the eye looks deliberate, not certified, pass.

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd pass too !!! :(

    Timbuk3
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's one that Holy John put his mark on. B)

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn't touch that, based on the photo alone. It has the general appearance of some Chinese counterfeits that I have seen.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not like the looks of that coin... it may be just the picture, but it does not look authentic...Cheers, RickO

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Sheldon_Overton_Baby said:
    I did the attribution as a BB-232 (B-4) but the color and strike have my skeptical of authenticity.

    Unfortunately, Most authentication cannot be done using an image. Complicating this, many C/F's are so well made today that the coins even look genuine in hand The coin is probably corroded and extremely cleaned. For that reason the images you've posted are of no help.

    Suggestion: Take a magnified image of the date, the eagles head, the area between "OF and "AM," and the edge. Also, weigh it. Then we all may be able to help you.

    On the plus side, AFAIK, this coin variety has not been counterfeited.

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