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I can't find the thread on the 1792 Washington gold piece

topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

It's in "Intelligent Collector" this month and I am still wondering why this is considered a pattern with no denomination or country.
Why isn't it considered a medal?
I don't remember if the OP had a history or reference that identified it as a potential ...coin.
I know it's ungodly rare but am curious as to why it is in the Redbook as a coin even if unique and historic.
??????

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm curious as to why it is in the Redbook as a coin even if unique and historic.

    Them's what rites the books or describe the pieces makes the rules. Look at all the coins called "Specimen Strikes."

    As for this piece, it's possibly because it matches the design in other metals. Lots of 18th century pieces have no indicated value. Some "tokens" do have a denomination on them.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 3, 2018 3:30PM

    Oh, it's all so complicated.
    :'(

  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm fine with it being in the Red Book, and have no truck with people calling it a coin or a pattern, but claiming that it was Washington's personal specimen is problematic on a few levels. Despite that, it's a wonderful, rare thing, and will bring a lot of money regardless of whatever story you choose to believe.


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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While the history of this piece is more circumstantial than fact - and even that is anecdotal - there is Newman's inputs that lends some authoritative credence to it's history. It will be expensive.... seven figures for sure... Cheers, RickO

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RE: "It will be expensive.... seven figures for sure...."

    Well, I can do seven figures -- so long as six of 'em are to the right of the decimal.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,543 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder if Hansen grabs this piece? Love coins like this, full of history and mystery.
    The kind of piece you could just stare at for hours, wondering what secrets it keeps.
    Probably belongs in the Smithsonian

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd have it examined to see if there was any evidence of its being thrown across the Potomac.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    RE: "It will be expensive.... seven figures for sure...."

    Well, I can do seven figures -- so long as six of 'em are to the right of the decimal.

    Seven figures. Let's see, there are the circle, the square and the triangle; the rhomboid, the trapezoid and the hemorrhoid......

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ..., the sphere, the torus, and Escheroid...... there are also the newly discovered one-dimensional donaldoid (which some consider an inside out "hemorroid" so it might be only imaginary), and the scutoid which cannot be mentioned in polite company.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't forget the opioid. It is the secret of the ages and can make one soporific and open to suggestions about coins or most anything else.

    B)

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    I wonder if Hansen grabs this piece? Love coins like this, full of history and mystery.
    The kind of piece you could just stare at for hours, wondering what secrets it keeps.
    Probably belongs in the Smithsonian

    I bet Cardinal is looking at this as a new pocket piece ;):p

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