How can I tell the difference between CAM or DCAM
Not sure if the pics will help. I'm guessing rather hoping this one is DCAM. Thanks all...
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Stooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
Per the PCGS website:
Cameo
The term applied to coins, usually Proofs and prooflike coins, that have frosted devices and lettering that contrast with the fields. When this is deep the coins are said to be “black and white” cameos. Occasionally frosty coins have “cameo” devices though they obviously do not contrast as dramatically with the fields as the cameo devices of Proofs do. Specifically applied by PCGS to those 1950 and later Proofs that meet cameo standards (CAM).Deep Cameo
The term applied to coins, usually Proofs and prooflike coins, that have deeply frosted devices and lettering that contrast with the fields - often called “black and white” cameos. Specifically applied to those 1950 and later Proofs that meet deep cameo standards (DCAM).
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DollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭
To deep Cam the frost has to fill all the low spots (such as Washington's throat area) and all the lettering. The lettering in my opinion often is the weak link.
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BillJones Posts: 33,981 ✭✭✭✭✭
It looks like a d-cam to me. The contrast is dramatic.
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ModCrewman Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
From your image it's hard to tell. It looks to me to have a shot at DCAM, but it's pretty hard to get the designation these days.
This one is a 69 CAM:
This one is a 68 DCAM:
This one is a 68 CAM:
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BillJones Posts: 33,981 ✭✭✭✭✭
The application of CAM seems to be inconsistent for 19th century coins from what I have seen.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?6 -
thefinn Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
Yours has no breaks in the frost, and it has very good contrast. Looks like a slam-dunk DCAM. The pic of the 1969-S 68DCAM in my opinion should only be CAM due to the break in the cameo in the eagle's left wing.
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Very hard to judge from the picture... certainly CAM.... Cheers, RickO
Yes, I can see the differences in your coins. I might try more pics later. It is hard to get a good pic w/o all the illumination, maybe my lights are too bright.
So basically, roll the dice and hope for the best.
If your photos are accurate, that is the most stunning '69-S DCam I have ever seen!
I'm gonna try to take better pics that show the true color, it has a light yellow or gold toning. Interestingly there are no pr70s, yet.
Better pics. And just for fun, two more with cell phone at the right angle for the golden glare.