The dies used to strike that don't have the proper detail to be genuine, and the only known dimes struck on nails that are genuine are Roosevelts. I owned one of them that sold at Heritage a few years ago for around $45K, and the market was flooded with fakes within weeks.
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They started coming out of China in less than
45 days of the first one sold at the FUN
Heritage auction about 3 years ago.
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Wonderful. It would be interesting to test the composition of any coin struck on a nail to see if we could determine what company manufactured the nail.
I'm not a nail expert, but that looks like a modern nail. I know that 100 years ago nails were already being machine made, but that thing looks like something you could buy at Home Depot today.
Also, if that was supposedly struck in the collar, wouldn't it be more bent?
In order to be a good counterfeiter, You need to know what you are doing. There are plenty of 19th and 20th Century structures where an old nail could be procured. The coin press is the "killer."
@JBK said:
I'm not a nail expert, but that looks like a modern nail. I know that 100 years ago nails were already being machine made, but that thing looks like something you could buy at Home Depot today.
Also, if that was supposedly struck in the collar, wouldn't it be more bent?
Collars are typically mounted on springs which allow some give during error strikes to minimize damage to the machinery. A nail across the collar would push it down to the level of the anvil die, more or less.
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@JBK said:
I'm not a nail expert, but that looks like a modern nail. I know that 100 years ago nails were already being machine made, but that thing looks like something you could buy at Home Depot today.
Also, if that was supposedly struck in the collar, wouldn't it be more bent?
Collars are typically mounted on springs which allow some give during error strikes to minimize damage to the machinery. A nail across the collar would push it down to the level of the anvil die, more or less.
Right after the real one’s story broke, these started popping up at aliexpress. Didn’t find that exact one in this lot, but scroll down, they offer many types.
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The dies used to strike that don't have the proper detail to be genuine, and the only known dimes struck on nails that are genuine are Roosevelts. I owned one of them that sold at Heritage a few years ago for around $45K, and the market was flooded with fakes within weeks.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
Fake Nail -
They started coming out of China in less than
45 days of the first one sold at the FUN
Heritage auction about 3 years ago.
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
Jinx.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
thank you
If you search closely you might find a "Made in China" marking.
As others have said, it is not real but it is still an interesting novelty (but I am not encouraging the counterfeiters to make more!).
Fake
Interesting !!!
Wonderful. It would be interesting to test the composition of any coin struck on a nail to see if we could determine what company manufactured the nail.
And this gimmick nail was done for what purpose? Peace Roy
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Take a wild guess. I'll go first, perhaps a "rare and unusual" Mint error. I want one!
I'm not a nail expert, but that looks like a modern nail. I know that 100 years ago nails were already being machine made, but that thing looks like something you could buy at Home Depot today.
Also, if that was supposedly struck in the collar, wouldn't it be more bent?
In order to be a good counterfeiter, You need to know what you are doing. There are plenty of 19th and 20th Century structures where an old nail could be procured. The coin press is the "killer."
Collars are typically mounted on springs which allow some give during error strikes to minimize damage to the machinery. A nail across the collar would push it down to the level of the anvil die, more or less.
Thx. I always wondered about that.
Right after the real one’s story broke, these started popping up at aliexpress. Didn’t find that exact one in this lot, but scroll down, they offer many types.
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/United-States-Of-America-Error-Coin-Of-The-A-Nail-Good-Creative-High-Quailty/32615826462.html
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@dodeqpl....Welcome aboard.....China special... Probably a fake dime and not a period nail... double fake.... Cheers, RickO
At least they got the strike perfectly in the center of the nail.
The coin is genuine, but the nail is fake?
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