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Attractive 1848-CAL. $2.50 gold at ANA this Thursday ....older thread

topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 30, 2019 8:41AM in Buy, Sell, & Trade - U.S. Coins

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking coin with a lot of history and a story to tell. I'm sure it will do well in the auction.

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  • No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Must have been to CAC. Gold experts educate me why it didn’t sticker taking for granted it was submitted Thanks in advance for your opinions

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, that is nice !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @No Headlights said:
    Must have been to CAC. Gold experts educate me why it didn’t sticker taking for granted it was submitted Thanks in advance for your opinions

    You can't just assume that every nice coin has been to CAC. From the pics here and at Heritage I see nothing that would keep this coin from being CACed. Not everyone drinks the CAC Kool Aid. From my experience when someone says something negation on a public forum about a coin being auctioned he's interested in buying it himself and wants to eliminate competition.

    Way out of my price range Perry. Honestly just wondering why it wouldn’t CAC as I said assuming it had been there. That assumption of course was that it would bring more money with a sticker. My comments were transparent. Nothing negative intended. Love old gold, but not my field of expertise. Just looking for the education

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 3,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I find it very hard to believe that a $50,000 coin was not sent to CAC. From the pictures it’s very difficult to get a good feel for what the coins surfaces look like.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a nicely toned and original coin. I see no problems that would cause CAC to reject it. For what this coin is worth any serious bidders will examine this coin in person at an auction lot viewing and will bid accordingly. The bidders will be either a serious experienced collector or a professional coin dealer who can make up their own minds concerning the condition of this coin. I have no financial interest in this coin but I do object when someone criticizes a coin some else lists on the BST. Unless a coin is counterfeit or seriously misrepresented, you shouldn't be commenting on someone else's coin on the BST.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2018 6:12PM

    gorgeous.

    m

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CAC is very tough on this issue. I know of one recently found in a bank vault after 50 years, prototypical EF and it didn't CAC. Still scratching my head on that one.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,296 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 30, 2018 3:57AM

    @Boosibri said:
    CAC is very tough on this issue. I know of one recently found in a bank vault after 50 years, prototypical EF and it didn't CAC. Still scratching my head on that one.

    Did the owner of this coin call CAC to find out why they rejected it? As far as the coin posted in this thread, do you see anything on this coin that would keep it from being CACed? I sure don't.

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  • CoinBreauxCoinBreaux Posts: 46 ✭✭

    Wow, nice toning. Seldom seen on gold coins.

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking, honest-to-goodness rarity. Wish I could be in the running for it!

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Glad to see this. The articles on this coin specifically mention the coloring of the coin due to the composition of the California ore that was sent to the mint and the UNIQUE elements in that early raw gold.
    INTERESTED parties ...I am sure... do their research and KNOW what is out there.

    CAC? Just for beans the real info is that (like Boosibri noted) CAC is VERY tough on the CALs.

    Of the certified 1848 CAL coins, PCGS has slabbed 71 pieces, NGC has certified 45....so, out of those 116 coins, CAC has beaned .... 12

    Genuine buyers undoubtedly do their research and know the stats. :)

    That's why Heritage has described it as they have.

  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    TTT

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2018 1:46PM

    Week and a day bump. If you have any interest in one of these 1848-CAL quarter eagles that has some "character" you should take a look at the Heritage ANA auction lot 5220 Aug 16, 2018.
    Toning is not the norm on these.

    It closes in a week and a day.

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/liberty-quarter-eagles/quarter-eagles/1848-2-1-2-cal-xf45-pcgs/a/1278-5220.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
    Good luck and if you're one of the present bidders, thank you.

    :)

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Last bump. :)

  • DCWDCW Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good luck on the sale. This is a real treasure, and although it will make the new owner very happy, I'll be a bit sad knowing it's no longer in your collection.
    Certain coins I just associate with certain members, and this was yours!

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good luck with the sale. It is an amazing coin and still under priced. I hope there is a lot of floor action for you tomorrow.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The countdown begins. :D

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on the strong results!

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks. I'm happy. :)

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does CAC sticker coins with counterstamps on them? As mentioned, this is a coin for specialists, and they know what the proper grade is. A bean on this wouldn't change the price one way or the other.

    thefinn
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's not a counterstamp.
    It's minted that way in the die.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Solid result, congrats. There were no less than 7 48 Cal's at the show including this one. You timed this sale very well for the influx to the market.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very solid result. Congrats!

    m

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What was the final hammer price?

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  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Solid result, congrats."

    It's better than solid. It sold for AU money and appears to be a record for the grade.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No PCGS XF to AU coins have been publicly made available since 2011.

    Or at least that was the history when I got it.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:
    No PCGS XF to AU coins have been publicly made available since 2011.

    Or at least that was the history when I got it.

    10/2017 Legend - AU 50 OGH - $55.8k all in

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 3,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good job!!!

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Last post on this thing.
    The check looks better in my coin account than the coin did in my virtual album. :D:D:D:D

  • DCWDCW Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats again! Glad you are happy with the outcome, and we can't wait to see what you acquire next

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  • spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That was one of my top 5 dream coins right there. If only I had a spare $55K to out bid the winner.......... Congrats to the winner and the consignor.

    Best, SH


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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Truly "topstuf"!

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another chance at it.

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