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Nice 1937 S buffalo in rattler, Thoughts on grade?

Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 399 ✭✭✭
edited July 7, 2018 6:22PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Picked this up for $40, couldn't pass it up in the rattler. Looks very nice to me, my first graded buff as well. How's the grade on this coin?




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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OGH nothing - that's a rattler!
    Looks very nice - not sure if it would upgrade with the spots on the reverse or not,
    but overall looks to be a pretty solid coin in a very old holder that you got for a fair price.

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  • Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 399 ✭✭✭
    edited July 7, 2018 6:25PM

    Ah thought those might be carbon spots..

  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love Buffalo's in the old rattlers. It's just too hard to say no, and at the price you paid, it would be a no brainer YES!!

    It has a great strike, but the luster looks a bit subdued (not sure if it's just the images) and the few spots on the reverse might keep it from going 66. If the luster is there, then I could see it going 66 as it appears to be mark free enough.

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks pretty good from here. Looks to have great luster and I’d say above average strike for the date.
    Yep! I like it.

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  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excellent pick up at $40. That coin is hammered. Looks solid for the grade and I could maybe see a 66 but no way to tell for sure from the pictures.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,610 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great strike and luster. Solid for the grade and what a great buy! Congrats and thanks for sharing.
    Jim


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  • I'm anewbie.What is a rattler and what is OGH.

  • sawyerjoshsawyerjosh Posts: 416 ✭✭✭

    Spots keep it at MS65

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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 7, 2018 10:45PM

    @jcretella said:
    I'm anewbie.What is a rattler and what is OGH.

    OGH: Old Green Holder
    Rattler: First generation of PCGS holder. Coins tend to rattle in the oversized coin compartment.

    There are very complete threads here on the generation breakdown of PCGS holder types - and there are many. Common wisdom has been that OGH and Rattler holders have coins in them - especially the Rattlers - which were under-graded. Not necessarily true, but neither is common wisdom.

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a nice coin in a nice grade for the price you did well looks good right where it's at.



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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coin is nice and the slab grades 66+/shot 7.
    Tough to find rattlers that aren't scuffed up.

  • NLLNLL Posts: 34

    Really nice looking coin!

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2018 5:48AM

    $40 all day long. Nice grab. Does she have any sisters?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice Buff at a nice price.... A keeper for sure... Cheers, RickO

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say that the grade is correct. There is no crack-out potential because the carbon spot precludes the MS-66 grade. > @jcretella said:

    I'm anewbie.What is a rattler and what is OGH.

    Rattler - early PCGS holders, the first PCGS holder. The name comes from the fact that the coin frequently rattled in the holder. The perception is that the grading was conservative and many pieces will upgrade. That is not always true as in this case IMO.

    OGH - Old Green label Holder. Generally it is felt that the grading was more conservative, BUT not always.

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  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,979 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin and price, keep it in the rattler as others have said.. it is properly graded at 65.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin, but I would send it in for reholder. :o I don't like rattlers! :o

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66+ shot at 67. Those spots might come off with some MS70.

  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 9, 2018 10:41PM

    Obverse sure looks stronger than a 65 to me. For me, the real question is how much the large-ish carbon spots on reverse limit grade. I'd guess it stands a shot at 66, but I'd probably leave it as is as the grade bump isn't that big of a payday, and I don't think it stands much chance of a 67. At $40 it sounds like a good buy and I'd leave the coin just as it is. Thanks for sharing...Mike

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