EDIT-Mislabel? How would this escape the mintt!?! Someone stuffed there pocket ;)

CRH4LIFE

1972 s Proof error. ..I have a ton of questions. Would anacs of labeled this wrong? Or does partial collar just bc the off centerd strike was not over a certain size?



Also not my coin! (Backstory) The owner of our LCS got in his safe and was showing off some of his personal collection- btw I was gobbling it all up. After a few minutes of toned cc's Old trade opium dollars and such ue pulled this gem out. He bought it back in 73 from a auction for $500 bucks. I then asked if he would be ok with me sharing this pick up as I have never seen this before. Enjoy

MsMorrisine

there is only so much real estate on a label.

the paper description is great but obviously too long to fit on the label.

I can't explain how it found its way out of the mint. who knows, it may have been in a proof set, maybe not. it is known that some employees snuck errors out of the mint.

CRH4LIFE

@MsMorrisine said:
there is only so much real estate on a label.

the paper description is great but obviously too long to fit on the label.

I can't explain how it found its way out of the mint. who knows, it may have been in a proof set, maybe not. it is known that some employees snuck errors out of the mint.

Someome actually just pointed put that there is a D on the dime.. Anacs labed this as the S mint. Do you think someone switched it out or anacs clearly mislabed this as such. Lol wow!

MsMorrisine

That's a tiny S

mustangmanbob

Good solid mint employee press operator doing a set up or dealing with a tool that becomes unhappy, has a boo boo coin.

Coin is worth ZILCH and should go in scrap bucket.

Good Solid Mint Employee knows WACKO coin people will pay big $$ for junk.

Mint employee tosses 10 cent coin in bucket, pockets junk, government is still whole, Good Solid Mint Employee's kids have the best Christmas Ever.

Timbuk3

Sweet !!!

gonzer

How it could make it to a sales catalogue with such a glaring mistake is the question.

halfhunter

Looks like a "S" to me . . .

BillJones

The coin has a "D" mint mark. How can it be a Proof? I have never seen an ANACS slab mechanical error, but this looks like one.

Treashunt

@CRH4LIFE said:

@MsMorrisine said:
there is only so much real estate on a label.

the paper description is great but obviously too long to fit on the label.

I can't explain how it found its way out of the mint. who knows, it may have been in a proof set, maybe not. it is known that some employees snuck errors out of the mint.

Someome actually just pointed put that there is a D on the dime.. Anacs labed this as the S mint. Do you think someone switched it out or anacs clearly mislabed this as such. Lol wow!

@BillJones said:
The coin has a "D" mint mark. How can it be a Proof? I have never seen an ANACS slab mechanical error, but this looks like one.

It is an S

BillJones

@Treashunt said:

@CRH4LIFE said:

@MsMorrisine said:
there is only so much real estate on a label.

the paper description is great but obviously too long to fit on the label.

I can't explain how it found its way out of the mint. who knows, it may have been in a proof set, maybe not. it is known that some employees snuck errors out of the mint.

Someome actually just pointed put that there is a D on the dime.. Anacs labed this as the S mint. Do you think someone switched it out or anacs clearly mislabed this as such. Lol wow!

@BillJones said:
The coin has a "D" mint mark. How can it be a Proof? I have never seen an ANACS slab mechanical error, but this looks like one.

It is an S

I am using an iPad, and when I blow it up, there is a line in the middle of the blob of metal, so I guess it is an "S", but it's not a good one.

This was during an era when a lot of manufactured junk was getting out of the San Francisco Mint. Proof Ike Dollars struck on cent planchets were in numismatic circulation. Those things were later confiscated, but they got out just the same. This thing is probably of the same ilk, although the changes of it getting through legitimately were better.

Treashunt

@BillJones said:

@Treashunt said:

@CRH4LIFE said:

@MsMorrisine said:
there is only so much real estate on a label.

the paper description is great but obviously too long to fit on the label.

I can't explain how it found its way out of the mint. who knows, it may have been in a proof set, maybe not. it is known that some employees snuck errors out of the mint.

Someome actually just pointed put that there is a D on the dime.. Anacs labed this as the S mint. Do you think someone switched it out or anacs clearly mislabed this as such. Lol wow!

@BillJones said:
The coin has a "D" mint mark. How can it be a Proof? I have never seen an ANACS slab mechanical error, but this looks like one.

It is an S

I am using an iPad, and when I blow it up, there is a line in the middle of the blob of metal, so I guess it is an "S", but it's not a good one.

This was during an era when a lot of manufactured junk was getting out of the San Francisco Mint. Proof Ike Dollars struck on cent planchets were in numismatic circulation. Those things were later confiscated, but they got out just the same. This thing is probably of the same ilk, although the changes of it getting through legitimately were better.

San Fran did have 'blobby' mint marks back then

ricko

Certainly looks like a 'midnight express' coin.... Believe me, people can find unique ways to steal.... Having worked in an industry for many years that used gold, I can assure you, people are very, very inventive. I have no doubt, most extreme mint errors were pilfered. Cheers, RickO

oih82w8

Cool piece and I love the old small white ANACS holders!

ChrisH821

On the reverse you can see some reeding and the entire design is intact. I think that is why it is considered partial collar instead of off center.

RogerB

Transitions from manual to automated or machine-assisted operations often produce excess error pieces - regardless of the type of product.

Type2

It's what it is and you have it cool coin.

FredWeinberg

It looks like an uncentered broad strike, from what I can see in the photos.

These have been coming out of the SF since the early '70's -

Stop by my table at the ANA in Philly -

I'll have a nice selection of Proof Error coins.

CRH4LIFE

I am w> @FredWeinberg said:

It looks like an uncentered broad strike, from what I can see in the photos.

These have been coming out of the SF since the early '70's -

Stop by my table at the ANA in Philly -

I'll have a nice selection of Proof Error coins.

Would love to

CRH4LIFE

Yes, I dont have anything high res to blow up the image. Thank you for the clarifying that it is indeed a "S" mint

savitale

I’m of the opinion most non-trivial mint errors were pocketed, if not deliberately fabricated.

When did error coins start to have value? Maybe one could say all errors before some time period are legitimate because they had no value.

mustangmanbob

I used to work in the semiconductor industry, making "chips" on thin silicon wafers, very much like 8" - 12" round circles of very thin glass, and they shattered the same way. We consumed hundreds a day that were planned scrap for new design, machine set ups, new tool installations, etc. and they were trashed. We were allowed to take souvenirs if not too excessive.

However, ones that had fairly "mature" chip designs, were absolutely stunning, would iridesce the entire spectrum due to layers of copper, aluminum, silicon dioxide, nitrides, etc. that were literally sometimes the thickness of wavers of light, and made neat mirrors, earrings, etc.

Coincidently, my office was next door to the man credited with "inventing" the microchip, Jack Kilby, Nobel Prize winner. When Jack was pleased with something, he sometimes would autograph the wafer. I have 3 of them he signed, kind of like having an autographed Thomas Edison LIght Bulb, Wright brothers plane, or Gutenberg Bible

The picture is taken under the light in our dining room. Each little rectangle is a computer chip, and they would later be sawed apart and packaged. The wafer is 12" and depending on the size of the chip, could have 5,000+ chips or less than 200, as some chips are less than .5 mm square, and some are over 1" square.

CRH4LIFE

@mustangmanbob said:
I used to work in the semiconductor industry, making "chips" on thin silicon wafers, very much like 8" - 12" round circles of very thin glass, and they shattered the same way. We consumed hundreds a day that were planned scrap for new design, machine set ups, new tool installations, etc. and they were trashed. We were allowed to take souvenirs if not too excessive.

However, ones that had fairly "mature" chip designs, were absolutely stunning, would iridesce the entire spectrum due to layers of copper, aluminum, silicon dioxide, nitrides, etc. that were literally sometimes the thickness of wavers of light, and made neat mirrors, earrings, etc.

Coincidently, my office was next door to the man credited with "inventing" the microchip, Jack Kilby, Nobel Prize winner. When Jack was pleased with something, he sometimes would autograph the wafer. I have 3 of them he signed, kind of like having an autographed Thomas Edison LIght Bulb, Wright brothers plane, or Gutenberg Bible

The picture is taken under the light in our dining room. Each little rectangle is a computer chip, and they would later be sawed apart and packaged. The wafer is 12" and depending on the size of the chip, could have 5,000+ chips or less than 200, as some chips are less than .5 mm square, and some are over 1" square.

Talk about interesting, WOW!!