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@logger7 said:

@Goob said:
After vigorously studying the AU53 and AU55 PCGS Photogrades, I honestly don't think it would because I see a lot of wear for the grade and I don't necessarily think CAC would agree on the grade. That's just my opinion though.

Do you think it would cac at AU50 then?

My opinion would yes, but I am not in CAC’s head. There is the dark spot on the last “S” of “STATES” which they might not like. It looks like it has enough luster to qualify, but that’s a factor one can only judge in person.

We now have spoken to another PCGS grader at the ANA show that says it is a transfer counterfeit. Either way, the coin is absolutely not for sale.

@oldglorycoins said:

@yosclimber said:

@InGodWeTrustCoins said:
We just showed this piece to Don Bonser who has previously worked with PCGS as a grader and authenticator. He closely examined the coin and said it is 100% genuine.

Unfortunately Don Bonser is incorrect.

In debate, this is called an "appeal to authority".
You ask a subject expert for their opinion.
It is a relatively weak type of evidence, but sometimes for subjective matters it is all that is available.

Here in this thread, we have much stronger evidence, based on the photos, known die pairs,
and known counterfeits.

I expect if Don Bonser viewed the evidence in this thread, he would say it is not genuine.
He is free to post on this thread and address the arguments presented here.

Are you a PCGS Grader/Authenticator? What credentials do you have to back up you thoughts? How many bust dollars do you own?

Just so that you are aware...many members on here are as knowledgeable or more knowledgeable than PCGS graders, particularly in narrow fields.

Many members on here have been graders and authenticators for the big TPGs.

Additionally, many members here have seen several (or more) inauthentic coins holdered by our our hosts.

I can happily provide examples of each of those points but do not want to derail this thread. This forum is particularly knowledgeable and that knowledge should be challenged with caution.

@oldglorycoins said:
A True "Expert" wouldn't need a anything except his knowledge and the coin in hand

Please invite Don to read the evidence (of the coin being counterfeit) presented in this thread. He’s extremely knowledgeable and I believe he will be persuaded if he reads it.

I have never used a third party insurer. For what you describe, I would use USPS registered. Registered is very secure.

That said, I will check back on this thread later to see if someone recommends a good third party option I am unaware of. I have wondered about your question before.

With early dollars, I find that it's more about the surface preservation and originality than the technical grade for CAC criteria. Im going to vote no - a bit cleany, and I don't love those scratches, especially behind her head on obv.

@blitzdude said:

It's been a fantasy ever since the first time I put my grubby little paws into that reject slot that someday I would pull gold. Momma stopped by Wally-world today on the way home from work and made sure to hit the coinstar on the way out. $.45 cents clad and a 2018 1/10 Gold Maple. Unbelievable the luck this woman has. She is as obsessed with the coinstar as I am. I have trained her well. RGDS!

Thats the Stuff Dreams are made of, Congrats Brother !

@blitzdude said:

It's been a fantasy ever since the first time I put my grubby little paws into that reject slot that someday I would pull gold. Momma stopped by Wally-world today on the way home from work and made sure to hit the coinstar on the way out. $.45 cents clad and a 2018 1/10 Gold Maple. Unbelievable the luck this woman has. She is as obsessed with the coinstar as I am. I have trained her well. RGDS!

Congratulations - you and your Momma are very lucky!
It surprizes me that such a new gold coin already ended up in the reject bin of a CoinStar machine.
I mean it's not even 10 years old, so not that long ago somebody bought this coin for full gold price (plus possibly even a premium). And now the previous owner has already forgotten about it? Wow!

@blitzdude said:

It's been a fantasy ever since the first time I put my grubby little paws into that reject slot that someday I would pull gold. Momma stopped by Wally-world today on the way home from work and made sure to hit the coinstar on the way out. $.45 cents clad and a 2018 1/10 Gold Maple. Unbelievable the luck this woman has. She is as obsessed with the coinstar as I am. I have trained her well. RGDS!

Oh my, that's a good wife!!!