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@johnny9434 said:
Im thinking that this is where the private mints popped up in conjunction with the states blessing just to have some circulating change in the area. I dont see why it wouldn't circulate, jmo 😗

(Interesting topic to)

Not close. Suggest you do a little research. Google will do.

Wow!
I was expecting to see a 194x with toning.
That coin is amazing!

@USSID18 said:
I would be embarrassed to show you. A 1963 Lincoln Cent to ANACS. It came back VG. The plastic is worth more then the coin! 🤣 🤣 I'd be lucky if it was worth 1¢! 🤣

Now that is a worthy story!

Thanks for the link to the very interesting article.

Some other differences w the Pan Pac...

Supposedly some of the profit from that issue was to support the event. This is just to make a ton for the Mint.

The Pac Pac was not super low mintage, it was super low sales due to price. Most got melted.

I also do not understand why The Mint seems to imply that these were so expensive to produce, while other world mints produce such items far, far less expensively. Also, many of them look nicer. I don't think these are that impressive looking for all the hype, price and discussion of technology. The Pan Pacs are fantastic looking.

Also, the Mint could have made each of these 2x their weight and still made a killing on them.

Just my opinion, of course.

@dunkleosteus430 said:
A mama duck and her ducklings which hatched in my front yard today.

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Remember - those are "Muscovy Ducks" - the females are wonderfully nice but when the Males get the testosterone flowing they get very aggressive!

@acelm said:
Tbh I don't understand why the program is still running. It's not the 100th anniversary anymore (well maybe for the Peace dollars still but not the Morgans)

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@mach19 said:
IMHO the mint should have dropped a few in the mint bag's and rolls..... possibly in the mint set's as well. That's just my opinion

Disagree. The point is to get the general public looking for them.

@DDR, that is one amazing run of CC seated dollars that you posted!

@NJCoin said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Rc5280 said:
He's already changing his tune & backtracking. You can see it a mile away.

However, it's soo refreshing to see a single sentence vs a 6 paragraph monologue that repeats itself over & over & over again for the entire thread! SMH.

This is one of those issues where I think any responsible assessment has to leave options open. It's a Mint first. It's a relatively low mintage, but not incredibly so, for a silver medal. It is a medal not a coin. The price is quite high. It's easy to see it as a 5 minute sell out or a total flop... and everything in between.

Just based on the sentiment here, it looks like the silver will sell out quickly. I'm not "backtracking" on anything.

I still think it's extremely overpriced crap, and have been consistently saying people only want it because they think they will be able to flip it for more. Not because any reasonable collector feels that their coin collection will not be complete without a $750+ half ounce silver ingot shaped in the form of the Liberty Bell.

There are flippers for sure. But I'd argue that many people want it because they feel if they don't buy it from the mint it'll be a) more expensive in the after market and b) hard to find after a few months.

Purchases based on nothing other than the greater fool theory always ends in pain and disappointment. And I haven't heard a single person here say anything positive about this, other than the low mintage.

Not always. Some people profit handsomely. If you're saying this you haven't been paying attention.

To date, the Mint has sold exactly 2,999 2024-W AGEs. Containing a full ounce of pure gold. Most of which at prices significantly below what people think the silver bells will be worth. Both sub 3K mintages. Both produced by the Mint.

But one is a tired series. The other is a novel offering tied to the semi-Q event. I don't think that's a fair comparison.

Not saying a silver bell is an AGE. Just saying everything does not have robust demand, just because it is made in very low numbers. And, absent very robust demand, it's puzzling why anyone would find these interesting at the price the Mint is seeking, regardless of the mintage. I personally find each of the BOM silver medals FAR more interesting than these. The fact that they are being sold at a fraction of the price is the least of the reasons why.

Why is it so puzzling?
a) The first non-asymmetrical us mint coin/medal.
b) SemiQ.
c) Low mintage
Just because these reasons don't excite you doesn't mean others aren't moved by them.

No one forced them to do this at all. Things like this should be made in reasonable quantities, at reasonable prices.

Modern Mint issues really should not be bespoke product only available to a select few. Maybe a 10 ounce gold whatever, if they want to test the market for something like that, but not a half ounce silver Liberty Bell commemorating the semisesquicentennial.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I see it that the mint is catering to the elite portion of their market base and have been for a few years now. Most people are just upset that they can't participate in the elite products, the same way most of us can't afford to participate in the market for Ferraris.

People here seem to imply this product offering is a miscalculation and "bad move" on the part of the mint. But I would bet this is a highly calculated move to cater to and serve higher margin clients and boost profits.

@NJCoin said:

@HalfDime said:

@NJCoin said:
To date, the Mint has sold exactly 2,999 2024-W AGEs. Containing a full ounce of pure gold. Most of which at prices significantly below what people think the silver bells will be worth. Both sub 3K mintages. Both produced by the Mint.

The mint has 4,759 more 24EH in inventory, so the final mintage will be around 7,759. Way over the gold bells.

These are also viewed as type coins by the market, so the total supply combines all the mintages. If it was a one-time issue it would have been a one-day sellout at a 3k mintage.

Not if they don't sell them and they are eventually melted down.

I'm not really convinced that the mint melts anything down anymore. I think that prior to the run up in platinum prices, in 2025 they were still trying to sell 2018 APEs. And from listening to coin dealer interviews, it seems like at some point someone with deep pockets makes deals with the mint to buy up old stale inventory.

As a result, as I've said before, that is going to leave you to battle with other flippers for one. A lot of people who might have actually wanted one will be out. Out at noon on the 16th, and out when you go to flip them.

But according to you this will be a dud and there will be a glut of these on ebay at sub-issue pricing. Which is it? Flipping opportunity depriving those who want one or dud leading to "dumping" on ebay at sub issue price?

@fathom said:
I'm struggling to know why the extreme pricing on the gold bells. Maybe they think they can retail them at a Tiffany or high end retailers besides the normal channels. It is an important milestone/anniversary.

Like I said, they are feeling confident about the brand.

Because they are catering to their elite customers, not us ASE/AGE & annual mint set rubes.