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Ehat do you use as a guide when buying KEY DATE coins?

With so many choices, what do you feel reflects the most current and accurate guide to value KEY DATE coins?
Not really interested in common date or even semi keys. This is specifically for key date coins. Thanks
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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    Didn't realize I had so many spelling errors, sorry, but I think you get the idea.
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just went through this a couple of days ago...

    I use a combination of recent (6 months max) Heritage auctions and the latest Greysheet, then factor in how nice the coin is I'm looking at, how much I want it, my checking account balance, and what my willpower level is at the time.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No single source. Use several sources and then negotiate to my price.... or walk. Cheers, RickO
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    multiple sources ... as many as possible that reflect actual selling prices and real buy/sell offers

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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    I too am a multiple sources kind of person. I like Heritage at the top, but I also use eBay prices (when I'm tracking certain coins),
    so that when I'm in the field (i.e. at a coin show) I know about how much I would need to pay for each coin.

    I find it best to keep the fewest pieces of pricing data on you when looking for coins at shows. And this often means I need to
    be very knowledgeable in the specific coin types and dates/mintmarks I am searching for!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,806 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No single source. Use several sources and then negotiate to my price.... or walk. Cheers, RickO >>



    Same here. Why limit yourself to just one source? "All the above" should be one of the choices but almost everyone would pick it so it would make your poll less than useful. I picked the Gray Sheet since many dealers use it to buy key dates for their inventory but I also use auction results.

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  • >I use a combination of recent (6 months max) Heritage auctions and the latest Greysheet, then factor in how nice the coin is I'm looking at, how much I want it, my checking account balance, and what my willpower level is at the time.
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    But I don't really do anything different for key date versus, semi or common. I'm more likely to let a common date that is too expensive go because I know another one is coming around soon.

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Primarily auction records. But also greysheet pricing.
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I use my eyes then my head. You can buy any ugly Key coin at a hight price but it's hard to buy a nice one at the right price. If you do you will alway be happy with it.... image


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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Multiple sources. Without doing so to fully educate yourself on a particular coin would be foolish.
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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    I too use multiple sources. Guess I should've been more specific, like which one do you find to be the most accurate?
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i like to use several different things when determing the price to a coin. home work does wonders when it comes to the pockebook image
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    to me, there are only nine dates that matter and none of them are considered "key dates"

    So I don't know.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ehat do I use as a guide?

    why, Coin Eorld of course!

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I voted the "top dollar" option, but only applies to stuff I really like, really want and have not been able to find. For the rest it's a combination of the Gray Sheet, "Coin Prices" magazine, the PCGS price guide and Heritage auction results. I look that those numbers and then use my brain and my gut.
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  • DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭
    I've been shooting for semi-key Morgans in MS-63 to MS-64. As is the consensus here, I use multiple sources. But I really like the pricing guide published once-a-month in the weekly Numismatic News newspaper. I find it to be current, if not completely accurate, but as a "buyer" an all-together excellent price guide.

    Cheers!

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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    bump for the night crew
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  • I use the greysheet / bluesheet... every B&M and Show Dealer around here whip them out faster than you ask " how much you asking for that " image

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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    I use the greysheet / bluesheet... every B&M and Show Dealer around here whip them out faster than you ask " how much you asking for that "

    What i can't stand is when they use the bluesheet for a coin that I am showing them. Bluesheet is typically lower, sometimes considerably, on the bid/ask and is mainly used for sight unseen deals.

    I once asked a dealer if he could not see the coin in front of him that I was wanting to trade in when he whipped out the Bluesheet. He said something like I dont have the time to photgraph the coin and that he sells them sight unseen. I again said, but you can see it, right?
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  • coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    If you look at the book price for a key-date coin you will never own one.

    I have been working on a key-date type set for the past 15 years and last 20 coins on my list will not be found for "book" prices

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I use a combination of Redbook and Numismedia. (Seasoned with a tiny dash of pure gut-feeling intuition).

    Numismedia recently opened up free access to their whole priceguide, it looks like- not just G4 to MS60 anymore. I can see the grades all the way up to MS70 now. What's nice is that they also price grades like AU53-55-58, not just AU50. Is it a perfect reference? No, but I for one shall contend that there is no such thing as the perfect single reference. And Numismedia is free and easy to access.

    Both have their shortcomings, but I never liked Greysheet, finding it to be overpriced and poorly organized (not very user-friendly). That's just my humble opinion, of course- I suppose if I'd been a longtime Greysheet user I could've gotten used to it. But as I was never anything but the smallest of dealers, I found the collector-oriented priceguides more useful to me. More of my customers likely used the Redbook than the Greysheet.

    Edit to add: I guess I should've read the CAPITAL LETTERS in your title. That whole response I just typed is in regard to what I use as a general reference. In answer to what I would use as a reference for KEY DATE material, I guess I'd consult as many different references as I could, but would focus more on recent auction prices than anything else. (And that little dash of intuition and gut-feeling I mentioned above would still be in play here).

    Not that I buy key dates that often.

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  • I have been working on a key-date type set for the past 15 years and last 20 coins on my list will not be found for "book" prices

    Likewise.

    I am amused that because the question is restricted to key dates only that 2 people, so far, say they use the red book as a guide. image

    I wonder if they are buyers, or sellers of key date coins at the absolute top of the range out there? image

    I guess if I were to sell what I have, I'd use the absolute top price as a guide too. image
  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    I use 40 years of experience, along with the advice of the experts in a given field. Knowing the approximate
    values for specific key date pieces I am actively looking for always helps, too.

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